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1861 for INFO
Name: Richard Manaring
[Richard Mainwaring]
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
[1836]
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary Manaring
Gender: Male
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Liverpool
Sub-registration district: Islington
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 60
Piece: 2696
Folio: 65
Page Number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Richard Manaring 30
Mary Manaring 24 born IRELAND
James Manaring 2
In 1871 and 1881, Mary says she was born in Staffordshire (Burslem as per 1871)
In 1891, it was Liverpool................so take your pick!
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Didn't you read the info posted about an hour ago about there being no penalty until 1875 for NOT registering births?
You may have to accept that the birth simply wasn't registered.
And Warrington is not a County.....it's a town/reg'n district within the county of Lancashire
To find his mother's maiden name, just look on freebmd for a possible marriage for his parents...........based on the info you have about their births..................and those of their children
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Warrington may be in Cheshire NOW,but between 1837 and 1974 it was in Lancashire...
WARRINGTON REGISTRATION DISTRICT
Registration County : Lancashire.
Created : 1.7.1837.
Sub-districts : Latchford, Newton in Makerfield, Rixton, Sankey, Sankey & Winwick, Warrington, Warrington First, Warrington Second, Winwick.
GRO volumes : XX (1837–51), 8c (1852–1946), 10F (1946–74).
Registers now held by : Warrington and St. Helens.
Table 1: List of Places in Warrington Registration District
Civil Parish
County
From
To
Comments
Burtonwood
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Croft
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 out of the parishes of Southworth with Croft, Culcheth, and Woolston with Martinscroft. See also Table 2, note (h).
Cuerdley
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, notes (f) and (h).
Golborne
Lancashire
1837
1845
See Table 2, note (b).
Grappenhall
Cheshire
1845
1895
See Table 2, notes (a) and (c).
Great Sankey
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Haydock
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Houghton Middleton & Arbury
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parish of Winwick.
Kenyon
Lancashire
1837
1845
See Table 2, note (b).
Latchford
Cheshire
1845
1889
In 1889 the part of the parish of Latchford within the borough of Warrington became part of Lancashire. In 1894 the part remaining in Cheshire became the separate parish of Latchford Without, so that thereafter Latchford was wholly in Lancashire. The parish was abolished 30.9.1898 and incorporated into the parish of Warrington. See also Table 2, notes (a) and (d).
Cheshire and Lancashire
1889
1894
Lancashire
1894
1898
Latchford Without
Cheshire
1894
1895
Created 1894 from the rural part of the parish of Latchford. See also Table 2, note (c).
Little Sankey
Lancashire
1894
1896
Created 1894 out of the parish of Warrington. Abolished 9.11.1896 and re-incorporated into the parish of Warrington.
Newton in Makerfield
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Penketh
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Poulton with Fearnhead
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, note (h).
Rixton with Glazebrook
Lancashire
1837
1934
See Table 2, notes (e), (g) and (h).
Southworth with Croft
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parishes of Croft and Winwick.
Thelwall
Cheshire
1845
1895
See Table 2, notes (a) and (c).
>>>Warrington
>>Lancashire
>>>1837
>>>1974
>>>See Table 2, note (i).
Winwick
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 out of the parishes of Winwick with Hulme, Houghton Middleton & Arbury, and Southworth with Croft. See also Table 2, notes (h) and (j).
Winwick with Hulme
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parish of Winwick.
Woolston
Lancashire
1933
1934
Created 1.10.1933 from the parishes of Woolston with Martinscroft and Culcheth. See also Table 2, note (h).
Woolston with Martinscroft
Lancashire
1837
1933
Abolished 1.10.1933 and incorporated into the parishes of Woolston and Croft. See also Table 2, note (j).
Table 2: Boundary Changes affecting Warrington Registration District
Date of Change
Note
Description of Change
Population transferred
21.10.1845
(a)
Gained the townships of Grappenhall, Latchford, and Thelwall, from Runcorn registration district. 3282 in 1841
22.11.1845
(b)
Lost the townships of Golborne and Kenyon to Leigh registration district. 1980 in 1841
1.7.1895
(c)
Lost the parishes of Grappenhall, Latchford Without, and Thelwall, to Runcorn registration district. 2194 in 1891
1.12.1896
(d)
Gained parts of the parish of Latchford (which until 9.11.1896 formed parts of the parishes of Appleton, Latchford, and Walton Inferior, from Runcorn registration district. 743 in 1891
1.10.1920
(e)
Gained parts of the parish of Rixton with Glazebrook (which until 1.4.1920 formed parts of the parishes of Partington and Warburton) from Bucklow registration district. 0 in 1911
1.3.1921
(f)
Lost part of the parish of Cuerdley (which became part of the parish of Widnes on 9.11.1920) to Prescot registration district. 46 in 1921
1.4.1934
(g)
Lost part of the parish of Rixton with Glazebrook (which became parts of the parishes of Lymm and Warburton on 1.4.1933) to Bucklow registration district. 0 in 1931
(h)
Lost the parishes of Burtonwood, Croft, Cuerdley, Great Sankey, Haydock, Newton in Makerfield, Penketh, Poulton with Fearnhead, Rixton with Glazebrook, Winwick, and Woolston, to Newton registration district. 44940 in 1931
(i)
Gained parts of the parish of Warrington (which until 1.4.1933 formed parts of the parishes of Grappenhall, Latchford Without, Stockton Heath, and Walton Inferior) from Runcorn registration district. 647 in 1931
(j)
Lost part of the parish of Woolston with Martinscroft (which became part of the parish of Thelwall on 1.4.1933) to Runcorn registration district. 0 in 1931
1.4.1954
(j)
Gained part of the parish of Warrington (which until 1.4.1954 formed part of the parish of Winwick) from Newton registration district.
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Because i wont beable to get a birth certificate i have now drawn a blank. I have these names and all the Census except 1891.
I only wanted to comfirm mothers maiden name, James Mainwaring is my GGrandfather they seem to be the only Mainwarings in Liverpool!
Thankyou all for your help
Sally
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Prehaps it was just a pattern..thats all
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Yes i have that one!.......Dont recall a Margaret Ellen though????
Seems strange that there are no birth reg for any of the children!
Thankyou Sally
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I,ve found this !!!!
James Mainwaring
Age:
11
Estimated Birth Year:
abt 1860
Relation:
Son
Father's name:
Richard Mainwaring
Mother's name:
Mary Mainwaring
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Civil parish:
Everton
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Timothy
County/Island:
Lancashire
Country:
England
Registration district:
West Derby
Sub-registration district:
Toxteth Park
91
Page Number:
21
Household Members:
Name
Age
Richard Mainwaring
35
Mary Mainwaring
30
James Mainwaring
11
Richard Mainwaring
8
John Mainwaring
6
Thomas Mainwaring
3 Months
Now my point is if this is the family I cant find birth reg for any children ...but have all the baptisum records ....including a Margaret Ellen Mainwaring .......
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I do know his parents names from the Census/ marriage cert. James on the Census was born in Liverpool/ Lancashire. Warrington is in Cheshire.
I have gone through my life explaining the same thing about how my name is spelt but pronounced Vicki Lol
Sally
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Have you looked for a birth in the mother's maiden name?
If the baptism record gives his mother's name in full then it is likely that the parents were not married at the time.
However it is still a high possibility that the birth went unregistered.
Kath. x
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Just a thought - I used to have a boss called Mr Mainwaring, but everyone pronounced it Mannering - so this could well be how the registrar recorded it.
Vicki
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West Derby does cover liverpool Kath, but the Quarter is wrong for the birth i have Dec 7th 1858
Sally
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What makes you think the Warrington Birth for James Mainwaring is the wrong one as you don't know the parents names..??
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Hi Gwyn
Yes he is the son of Richard Chairmaker
It said he was the son of Richard Mainwaring & Mary Doherty.
That is why i would like to get birth cert to comfirm
Sally
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With a birth that early there is a possibility that the birth wasn't registered at all so there would be no certificate (there weren't any penalties for not registering a birth until 1875 so many did not bother).
However there is this birth (if he had two names and his surname was spelt differently:-
Name: MANNERING, Daniel James
Registration District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 8B
Page No: 274
West Derby would cover Liverpool.
Kath. x
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Are his parents not shown on the baptism record?
Is he the son of Richard .a chairmaker in 1861?
Not all births were registered at that time, although they should have been.
Gwyn
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Sorry, when i said James's parents names are uncomfirmed, what i ment was his Mothers maiden name. On marriage Cert is father Is Richard. On the census before he marrys his parents are Richard & Mary.
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Thankyou all for your info
James Mainwaring
From baptism records i have........ Birth 7th Dec 1858
Baptised..... 16th Jan 1859
In the Census 1861.....2yrs 1871.....11yrs 1881......21yrs.....1901......41
1911.......52. Carnt find him in 1891 Census
He is living in Liverpool. He married in 1882
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If you post the details I will take a look for you
Kath
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Hi All
I have looked on free bmd, couldnt find him. Then i requested a lookup, Somebody told me they had found him, but the county was Warrington. I ordered Cert anyway. It was the only one. When it arrived it was the wrong one.
Sally
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When asked if you have the GRO Reference reply No.
For the year of birth, enter 01/01/yyyy. That is the first of January for the year that you think is trhe correct one.
Enter ONLY the information that you are absolutely sure is correct. Do not enter info that you are not certain about.
The GRO will then search for the year you have quoted and one either side, using the info you have provided.
If they find a match to the info you have provided then they will issue the cert. If no match is found then you get a full refund.
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