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Hi hope some one may be able to help . I am searching for my
Great grandfather his name was William Ryan he was born in 1898i I don't know where he was born I have checked 1901 census but he is not there . i believe he may have been in a children home around 1910 -1912
in the city of Liverpool England . I believe his mothers name was Catherine or Kate . all i am doing is trying to find where he was born but have hit a brick wall
Thank you
Ryanke

Who did William marry? Do you know where and when they married?

Also

Do you know when and where William died?

Just a possibility given your info

Person: RYAN, William
Institution: St George's R C Certified Industrial Schools For Boys, ST GEORGE'S ROMAN CATHOLIC CERTIFIED INDUSTRIAL SCHOOL FOR BOYS, WEST DERBY ROAD

RYAN, William Inmate M 13 1898 School Lancs Liverpool VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
22552 Reference:
RG14PN22552 RD455 SD8 ED40 SN9999

Registration District:
West Derby Sub District:
South Everton Enumeration District:
40 Parish:
Everton

Address:
West Derby Road Liverpool County:
Lancashire

How did you get back to him? Theres lots with the same name so to help we need ALL the info you have on him so far

just a possibility
BMD Search result details

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: RYAN, William
Registration District: Help Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1897
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 8B
Page No: Help 106

Hi Thank You so much
William Ryan married Grace Holme Feb 1919 on his marriage certificate fathers name was Christopher Ryan . I again have have never found anywhere a Christopher and Catherine Ryan with a child named William born 1898 . I don't think Christopher Ryan was his fathers name . Because the lady who I believe was his mother was Catherine Ryan but she married a Christopher Robinson in April 1909 in Liverpool. Catherine's maiden name was Ryan. so I think she had him out of wedlock not sure .
The whole family all lived in Liverpool England .
Once again I thank you all so much
Ryanke

Ryanke, can I just check where you have got your information from? Why do you believe his mother married a Christopher Robinson?
Jan

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1909 (>99%)
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JONES Catherine Liverpool 8b 18
>>>>ROBINSON Christopher Liverpool 8b 18
>>>>RYAN Catherine Liverpool 8b 18
WILLIAMS Owen Liverpool 8b 18

This is possibly Catherine on 1911 but no Christopher. It says she has had one child and it is still living.



ROBINSON, Catherine Head Married
3 years F 33 1878 Hawker Old Clothes Lancs Liverpool

Reference:
RG14PN22163 RG78PN1312 RD453 SD2 ED15 SN463

Registration District:Liverpool
Sub District:Exchange
Enumeration District:15
Parish:Liverpool


Address:
16 Gerard St Liverpool County:
Lancashire

Do you have an occupation for Christopher?
Jan

Hi all
I have the marriage certificate for Catherine Ryan and Christopher Robinson .Christopher Robinson = Gen Laborer.
I do Have Catherine bein 1891, !881 census with her family but as I said I can not find her any time after not even 1911 census .
Thanks
Ryanke

What age is given for Christopher on the marriage certificate ?

What about address and witnesses? Also - still have no idea why you believe these people to be his mother and step-father!

Jan

Hello thank you all so much for your help I appreciate everything you have done.
Williams age on Marriage certificate 9th Feb 1919 was 21 years old and was 33 years old on 6th Feb !932 when he passed away .
All i know about him was that he lived with Catherine And Christopher Robinson .
My fathers brothers and sisters called her Grandma Her maiden name was Ryan And Christopher and Catherine never had any other children .Catherine's father was also named William She also had a brother named William . I cant prove that he was Catherine's son this is relay what i am trying to find out was he one of her youngest Sisters child and her being the oldest having to bring William up?
Thank you all for your help

Ryank

hello.did william go on to have any children?x :-D

HI
Yes William had 4 Sons . William,John, Christopher and Donald. he also had 3 Daughters Grace. Doris and Cathy. they all lived in Liverpool England in the West Derby area.

Thanks
Ryank

hi ryank,
the reason i asked you that question is that my dad had a uncle mick(michael)ryan who treated my dad like a son(dad lost his dad age 8 in 1949)i adored my uncle mick,he was a lovely kind hard working man.he was also lived in west derby liverpool until his death in the 80s.i have done a bit of research into uncle micks family, and thought i may have been able to help you.x :-D :-D

Hi Suzanne
Thank you so much for your help.
The Ryan surname has been very difficult to track because of it being so common in Liverpool . My search is in Liverpool as that's where the family settled back in 1850 when they came over from Ireland . The family still live in Liverpool but are wildly spread through out the city. and i have no contact with them.
I noticed you are researching a McDonald family I only say this as Williams Grandfather married a Joanna McDonald . His name was Patrick. Just thought I would mention this you never know

Ryank :-) :-)

hi ryank.
when i first started to reaserch the mcdonald family 7yrs ago i really thought they were from ireland,and then a few yrs later thought they were from scotland(went to scotland twice to do research)and then found out last yr that they were from smithdown rd liverpool(where i was born in 1964 ha ha)going back to my lovely uncle mick,yes the ryan name is very common in liverpool(the irish built liverpool,)uncle mick has a wife and daughter still living in liverpool but dont really know more at this point(will ask my dad when he comes home from spain next wk)i know uncle micks parentsame here from ireland and i know he was born around 1920s,he married my dads aunt a mears also from ireland (belfast and antrim)sometime in the 40s,maybe my ryans and yours are related in some way,will let you know what info dad gives me.x :-D :-D :-D :