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ann now annielaurie

That is what several people have told me!


All I can say is that I must have looked for the service records for 40 or 50 dead soldiers since those records became available on ancestry .............. and have not found any of them.

I have found medal cards for most of them, and also often found their names in Soldiers who died in the Great War, but not service records.


so all I can say is that my experience is that service records for dead soldiers either did not survive OR they were moved to another file

.................... and that does make some sense as one would expect to remove "inactive" records of anything from an active file to elsewhere.




sylvia

There are plenty of surviving records for those who died, amongst the WW1 service records, but of course, even more were destroyed.

Hi

Thanks for that but some kind people on this site have been very helpful with information.

Thankyou
Ann

Ann

I have not yet found a service record for someone who died in WW1.

I have been assured by others that they have done that ........... but I never have.


I've suspected that the service records of deceased soldiers might well have been removed from the "active" file.



There are only about 30% of WW1 records for the ordinary serviceman still in existence, and even they are badly damaged.

The records were moved from the Department of Defense to a "safer" building in London at the outbreak of WW2


it was bombed.

The records were then moved to Kew.



sylvia

Thanks George will have a look at the website

Ann

Here is another site who definiteley have a photo of his headstone, this one you have to pay for though, £3-00 by email version or £5-00 hard copy sent in the post.They do send other info, exactly what i dont know.

Link

http://www.twgpp.org/index.php


Details

James, Percy
Cemetery: Abbeville Communal Cemetery

Country: France

Area: Somme

Rank: Driver

Official Number: 27937

Unit: 70th Bty. Royal Field Artillery.

Force: Army

Nationality: British

Details:
Died of wounds 4th September 1915. Age 30. Husband of Emily James of 13 Blenheim St. Colne Lancs. II. E. 15.

George

Thanks George will do that.

ann

Ann

Here is a Link to the British War Graves, who have photographed all the Headstones in the Abbeville Communal Cemetery.

According to the site info you can obtain a copy for FREE just follow the instructions on the site.
That is of coures if you want this sort of info

http://britishwargraves.co.uk/index.htm

George

Hello Ann...... I have a cousin diied & buried France 1915......
He is on the headstone with father in England also.

Hi Jonesey

Thankyou so much for the information 1911 Census looks interesting?

Will check the info I have

Many thanks
Ann

1911???
JAMES, Percy Head Married M 25 1886 Insurance Agent Life Kendal Westmorland VIEW
JAMES, Emily Wife Married F 24 1887 Yorkshire Stansforth VIEW
JAMES, Harold Son Single M 3 1908 Lancashire Colne VIEW
JAMES, Richard Edward Son Single M 2 1909 Lancs Colne VIEW
JAMES, Martha Daughter Single F 0 (1 MONTH) 1911 Lancs Colne VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
24932 Reference:
RG14PN24932 RG78PN1425 RD472 SD5 ED20 SN182

Registration District:
Burnley Sub District:
Colne Enumeration District:
20 Parish:
Colne

Address:
8 Bents Colne Lancashire County:
Lancashire

1891:
Name: Percy James
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Richard E James
Mother's Name: Mary A James
Gender: Male
Where born: B in F, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Old Hutton With Holmescales
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Bridge End
County/Island: Westmorland
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Kendal
Sub-registration district: Grayrigg
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard E James 32
Mary A James 38
Margaret A James 13
Richard E James 11
Elizabeth J James 9
Percy James 5
Mary A James 7
Isabel James 3

Probable birth registration:

Births Dec 1885 (>99%)
James Percy Ulverston 8e 807

Thankyou you have been a great help didn't know he was married so gives me another avenue to have a lok at

Regards
Ann

I cannot immediately spot any WW1 service record for him but here is the entry on the CWGC site:

Name: JAMES, PERCY
Initials: P
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Driver
Regiment/Service: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 70th Bty.
Age: 30
Date of Death: 04/09/1915
Service No: 27937
Additional information: Husband of Emily James, of 13, Blenheim St., Colne, Lancs.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: II. E. 15.
Cemetery: ABBEVILLE COMMUNAL CEMETERY

Guess at his marriage:

Marriages Sep 1906 (>99%)
HIRST Emily Burnley 8e 480
JAMES Percy Burnley 8e 480

Thanks

Would there be any other records for him anywhere.
Would he have been burried in France and the inscription put on parents gravestone as well?

Ann

?? Medal card

Name: Percy James
Regiment or Corps: Royal Field Artillery
Regimental Number: 27937


Rank - Dvr Which I think means driver

Thankyou

I am looking for Percy James b: 1885 Old Hutton, Westmorland
27957 Driver Percy James RFA died of his wounds Oct 4th 1915 In Abbeville France Aged: 30yrs

This information is from his gravestone which I found at St John the Baptist churchyard Old Hutton. on the same gravestone are his parents Richard Edward James and Mary Agnes James.

Regards
Ann

The surviving WW1 service records are available at Ancestry. If you do not have a subscription post details of who it is you are looking for. Give as much info as you can, Full name, where and when born, Any wife or parents names ect and if known which regiment they served in, service No if known.

They are on Ancestry but only about 30% survive

Hi can anyone give me a web address to look up someones record.

Thankyou
Ann