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Jessie could be short for Jessica


could that help?




sylvia

I found that one too

the only problem was I could not find any appropriate births with that mmn

it WAS after Joan's birth it was - 1937 & Joan was born 1933

Oh Mary Mary Mary! How do you do that??
That looks very promising doesnt it...well done you!

When Joan finds her birth cert i'll put details on this thread.
You have all worked so hard.
I cant thank you all enough

I know there is a connection to Yorkshire but i thought it was AFTER Joans birth!

If i had to do this alone i would have Jessie married to Queen Victoria! lol

My beds calling so nighty night all. i will reread all this again tomorrow.

Sweet dreams everyone
Gerri x

And this is the ONLY Jessie/Sidney Porter marriage I can find anywhere :-((

Name: Jessie F Dewar
Spouse Surname: Porter
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1937
Registration district: Hull
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - East Riding
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 519
Find Spouse: Sidney Porter


Mary

Gerri

I'm confused (quite often am) is Sidney Porter and Jessie.... the parents or grandparents of Joan b 1933.
EDIT Sorry did not see the second page
Regards

Vera

I have a theory based on the info given earlier that Sidney died at sea. If Joan knew that, then he presumably died before she left home circa 1954?? If that is correct then I can't see Jessie remaining single for the rest of her life (although she may have of course lol), so I got to looking for a marriage of Jessie Porter and found these:

Name: Jessie Porter
Spouse Surname: Toulmin
Date of Registration: Feb 1989
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 40
Page Number: 231
Find Spouse: John H Toulmin

Name: Jessie S Porter
Spouse Surname: Toulmin
Date of Registration: Feb 1989
Registration district: Blackpool and Fylde
Registration county (inferred): Lancashire
Volume Number: 40
Page Number: 231
Find Spouse: John H Toulmin

I checked for ANY Jessie marriage to Toulmin and this is the only one (same person, not 2 marriages).

Checked for a death - and found this one:

Name: Jessie Toulmin
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1913
Death Registration Month/Year: Dec 1994
Age at death (estimated): 81
Registration district: Preston and South Ribble
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: C45C
District and Subdistrict: 5881C
Entry Number: 46

Checked for John H death - and found this one:

Name: John Heaton Toulmin
Birth Date: 29 Aug 1909
Death Registration Month/Year: Sep 1994
Age at death (estimated): 85
Registration district: Preston and South Ribble
Inferred County: Lancashire
Register number: B42C
District and Subdistrict: 5881B
Entry Number: 32


Obviously you would need the certs to confirm. ;-)

Mary

Know what you mean Ann lol Good thinking though.
No her married name is Lowe.

with so many mistakes in the info you were given is it also possible that Porter is Joan's married name and not her birth name?

awww thanks lancashireAnn

Spoke to my friend and she still insists Joan Porter was born 1933.

She has also told me she made a mistake about the baby being left on church steps...
It was NOT Jessie it was another on her fathers side.

She also said that Joan left home when she was 21 and not 16. gggrrrr lol

Still waiting for the birth cert to be found.......double gggrrrr lol


Gerri x

this is the nearest I can find for Joan

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1934
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference
PORTER Valerie Joan Fleetwood Preston LORD FLW/55/22

I can't find any consistent mmn for a Dorothy, Joan & Dennis

Hi Dee

Thanks. :-))

Mary

Hi Mary,

Gerri got muddled abit and later confirms that Jessie and Sidney were Joans parents.


Dee x

Hi

I'm getting muddled - on your first posting you say that Joan's parents were Sidney and Jessie - but further down you have that Sidney and Jessie were Joan's grandparents. Which is right? :-)))

Mary

Hiya Gerri

I don't have ancestry any more so only look in now & again to see whats going on.

it's good to see to about

TC xx

Hi julie
havent been doing my tree for ages.
I'm trying to help a friend get started but not doing very well as you can see lol

I'm now even older and more brain dead lol look at that stoopid death i found lol
The Mother would have been in her 60s when she gave birth if that was the correct one lol

Time for a pot of tea me thinks.

Nice to see you again

Gerri x

OMD's...Gerri haven't seen you for ages.......where you been hiding :o))

Found a better death..

Jessie Porter
Death Registration Month/Year: 1960
Age at death (estimated): 88
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 10c
Page: 251

Thats me lot for today.

Thanks again.
It's funny that when you talk to someone else it helps the brain cells lol

Nope!

I don't suppose Joan has a middle names does she?

We dont expect to go back from Jessie as Joan said that jessie was a foundling...Dumped on church steps in Scotland.

but!...

Someone must have given Jessie a surname!