Genealogy Chat

Hi

I need to do some research for my Irish ancestors but am not sure what website is the best . It is mainly the north of Ireland, Down etc so I dont know if that makes a difference. I dont want to join one for a years membership but would prefer just using pay to view sources.
I have tried free searches on the Ancestry site but I cannot get anywhere with it as it says Irish then gives me countries from all over.
Has anyone used emerald ancerstors or roots ireland.?If so what one would you recommend? Any other ideas welcome.

Thanks

Hi Summer

Have you tried the 'Trying to Find' board on here - there are some very helpful people with good knowledge of Irish records.

I have used rootsireland, my research is in Southern Ireland. It's free to search but at 5 euro a look it's not cheap - ok if you have don't have a common name! Not all counties covered yet.

Also Familysearch - none of my lot on there unfortunately!!

It's not easy - GR is probably your best bet.

Good luck

Olwen

some Irish records on here:

https://www.familysearch.org/

also the Irish 1901 and 1911 census are free to search just google for them

Hi
I agree, 5 euros a look is definately not cheap. I have been lucky with family search up to a point, but now I am totally stuck in every direction I try to go. LOL.
I had no idea that the 1901 and 1911 cencus were free though thats worth a try.
Anywhere else you can think to look ?

emeraldancestors is a very limited site, but you can subcribe to £10 for a month

www.ancestryireland.com pay to view site £4 a record or subscribe for £30 and the record to view are £2

If you want to put some name's on here I'll have a look and see if I can find anything.

Hi Maura
That is very kind of you to offer to do a look up for me.
I have several that I am stuck at so I will give a brief over view and you can pick out the name you want.

I am trying to confirm if I have the correct names for both the parents for William J Morgan dob1841 who was born in Ireland. He married at Ballyculter parish down in 11863 to maragret Quinn. I have their marriage cert but I have no proof of parents. except the father is John Morgan 1819 and Ellen Killops, taylor ? I cant go any further back on this line untill I get this and I cannont find Williams death certificate although it appears he died in Scotland, Ayrshire so this does not help.I would love to find more details of john and ellen? their births, deaths, parents or anything.

I am also looking forRose Ann Dorans dob 1890 grandparents Rose Ann married Michael Quinn. Her mother is called Bridget Doran and she was born in 1877 fermanagh . Her father was Thomas Doran. I have hit a brick wall here and cant find any certs or deaths or anything for her parents to lead me to her grandparents.

Other names Mark Quinn 1821 ? Married to Margaret Quinn Maiden name Killops dob 1844 ?

I know this is a lot so just do what you want from this list.
Thank you very much

William John Morgan
date of birth 05/02/1841
baptised Ballyculter C.O.I. 07/02/1841 by REV W LEAHY.
Father John Morgan farm servant
Mother Ellen
Address Ballyculter

Mary Jane Morgan
date of birth 20/09/1850
baptised Ballyculter C.O.I. 13/10/1850 by REV J F GORDON
Father John Morgan farm servant
Mother ellen
Address ferry quarter Ballyculter

Cannot find a marriage for John & Ellen Killops

You have Rose Ann Doran born 1890 and her mother Bridget born 1877, making her on 13 when she had Rose Ann. Is Thomas Bridget father or Rose's

Hi
This is the correct Morgan family, but I would like to find the parents of john and ellen, their deaths etc.

On rose annes birth cert it gives the date for bridget as 1877 fermanagh.
Thomas was roses father husband of bridget.
I have rose anns dob on her birth cert as 1890 scotland so I am not sure if one of the dates is inaccurate.13 is very young like you say.

Thank you

Hi
Sorry I am not sure I understand who Jane is? Is she the daughter of John and Ellen ?

Summer the sites I have excess to, marriages for Ballyculter only start at 1845 on 1 site, and nothing coming up on the other, the only way to find this marriage is either to contact the church or go to PRONI when it opens at the end of March. Plus marriages that early will more than likely not have their father's names on it. How or where did you find William John mother's name if you haven't got his death cert ? He was married in Ireland and marriage cert here don't list mother's names.

Mary Jane is the daughter of John & Ellen

If you have Rose Anns birth, what her mother's maiden name?

Again nothing for Mark Quinn with a wife Margaret Killops

Summer,

You say Rose Ann was born 1890 in Scotland and that you have her birth cert? Does the cert not give where and when her parents married?

Is this the family in 1891? If so, your DOB for Bridget is wrong:

1891 Scotland Census
about Bridget Dorne
Name: Bridget Dorne
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1862
Relationship: Wife
Spouse's name : Thomas Dorne
Gender: Female
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 652/2
Registration district: Coatbridge
Civil Parish: Old Monkland
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 12 Back Row Rosehall
ED: 35
Household schedule number: 61
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1891_320
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Dorne 27 B Ireland, coal miner
Bridget Dorne 29
Thomas Dorne 11 B Ireland
John Dorne 6 B Ireland
Terrance Dorne 5 B Ireland
Rose Ann Dorne 10 MO B Coatbridge
Owen Dorne 13 B Ireland, brother-in-law, coal miner
James Brudie 48
James M Teer 36
John McGill 35
Charles McGill 32

Summer...
You may have been better to just continued with your previous posting 5th Feb.then people would be able to view the info.you already had on Morgan /Quinn

www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/trying_to_find/morgan/thread/1257503?page=0

Hi Potty
Oh yes it does Rose Anns marriage cert says they were married 0m 8th Oct 1909 at the Roman Catholic Church Mossend. It doesn't say where her parents were married. It gives the address as 19 orbiston Bellshill.

On Rose Anns birth cert it definately say mother Bridget 16th may and it looks like Tempo Fermanagh. I took it that this was her dob could it mean something else?

I have a death cert for a Thomas Breen Doran which seems a awful coincidence having bridgets surname in it but not sure if this is the same family. The death is 1955 and says mother bridget breen deceased. It also says widower of Catherine Duffy. The death is Bellshill cant read the street. Do you think this could be Bridgets son ,Rose anns brother ?

That family you listed does look like it is possibly the same family but the surname is different spelling so I am not sure.The son you listed called thhomas could be the son in the death cert as the dates would tie up ie age 11 in cencus and died at age 75 in 1955. What you think please.

Tempo is in Fermanagh and it probably the marriage date on Rose Ann birth cert

Name: Bridget Breen
Registration District: Enniskillen
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1880
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101253
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 71
Digital Folder Number: 4179386
Image Number: 00526
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958


Name: Thomas Doran
Registration District: Enniskillen
Event Type: MARRIAGES
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1880
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101253
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 71
Digital Folder Number: 4179386
Image Number: 00531
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Name: Terence Doran
Registration District: Enniskillen
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Apr - Jun 1886
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101061
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 86
Digital Folder Number: 4193975
Image Number: 00113
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Name: John Doran
Registration District: Enniskillen
Event Type: BIRTHS
Registration Quarter and Year: Oct - Dec 1884
Estimated Birth Year:
Age (at Death):
Mother's Maiden Name:
Film Number: 101060
Volume Number: 2
Page Number: 86
Digital Folder Number: 4193461
Image Number: 00291
Collection: Ireland, Civil Registration Indexes, 1845-1958

Found 4 birth for children of Thomas Doran & Bridget Breen

Michael born 1881 Tempo
Mary Anne born 1883 Tempo
John born 1884 Tempo
Terence born 1886 Tempo

Thomas Doran marriage 1880 father's a Michael
Bridget's father a Owen

Wow ! thank you so much. Where did you manage to find all this?
Now I have more to go on I am so pleased.

Thanks everyone, your all so helpfull

Summer...If you check out the 1901/1911 Census there is only 1 Breen family and 1 Doran family living Tempo...you may find some connection at a later stage.
Tempo was/is only a small village and in 2001 the pop.was only abt 500.

There's a death on Scotlands people for a Bridget Doran nee Breen born 1862 + 3yrs died 1948