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My g. grandparents were John Martin and Martha Allnutt, have never found this marriage but someone had on there tree they married 1864 Kensington, London. I asked them where they found it but got no reply. Any help please

have you checked on FreeBMD

Yes and on ancestry no luck

there is a marriage fo Kensington in 1864 for Martha but no groom John Martin

Thank you for this will have a look

wonder whether she married someone else so couldnt marry John OR married him with a different surname

Possible as I think he was married before to a Lisa Britnell

I can't find a marriage for Allnutt and Martin. Could Martha have been married before, and therefore Allnutt was not the name she used when she married John? Or perhaps they never married.

Kath. x

SO I think an 1864 marriage is a bit soon!!

Marriages Sep 1861
Britnell Eliza Wycombe 3a 499 >>>>
Gibbons Anne Wycombe 3a 499
Martin John Wycombe 3a 499 >>>>>
Tustin George William Wycombe 3a 499

They had 9 children from 1863 to 1887 2 were b Buckinghamshire. On my great grandmothers birth certificate it has her name then father John mother Martha Martin formerley Allnutt

a possiblity then
Deaths Mar 1862
MARTIN Eliza Wycombe 3a 284

Thank you this is a help

Have found the marriage now I think:-

Name: Martha Allnutt
Year of Registration: 1851
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Maidstone
County: Kent
Volume: 5
Page: 510

Also on the page is John Kemble Martin.

Kath. x

No this can't be the one as they were both with their parents on 1861 census.

That's the only Martha Allnutt marriage I can find to a John Martin.

Can you post the 1861 census details?

Kath. x

1861 census
Name: Martha Allnutt
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas Allnutt
Mother's Name: Martha Allnutt
Gender: Female
Where born: Aston, Oxfordshire, England

Civil parish: Crowell
Town: Crowell
County/Island: Oxfordshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Thame
Sub-registration district: Thame
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 3
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Allnutt 52
Martha Allnutt 52
John Allnutt 21
Martha Allnutt 19
Alice Allnutt 14
Thomas Allnutt 10
William Allnutt 7

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 886; Folio: 19; Page: 1; GSU roll: 542716


is this the right family on the 1871 census
Name: Martha Martin
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: John Martin
Gender: Female
Where born: Oxfordshire, England
Civil parish: Rotherhithe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Registration district: St Olave Southwark
Sub-registration district: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 103
Household Members: Name Age
John Martin 31
Martha Martin 30
Pheobee Martin 7
William Martin 6
Jonah Martin 4
John Martin 1


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 642; Folio: 13; Page: 20; GSU roll: 818934

It doesnt look like they married.

1861 for Allnutt
Thomas head age 52 Farmers labourer
Martha wife age 52
John son age 21 ag labourer
Martha daughter age 19 lacemaker
Alice daughter age 14 lacemaker
Thomas son age 10 shepherds boy
William son age 7 scholar

Yes these are right what you have