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Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Sep 2010 21:43
	According to the service record He was a Baker, having served an apprenticeship Thomas R Branson emlisted 24 - 8 -14 was attested to the Buffs 24 - 8- 14 Private Service No 10247 Discharged for misconduct 30 - 10 -14 Character Indifferent on the front sheet . he says that he had previously been in the Buffs, and was discharged as "medically unfit" in 1912 NOK Mother Miltilda Address Not Known Brother James Dorset Regiment Brother Harry Address Not known I wonder if that is why he changed his name to Phenton .......... so that he could re-join the army?????????????? But there will be no proof unless Phenton's records have survived. it then looks as though he married Charlotte as Phenton, and then abandoned her .................. could ther epossibly have been a divorce? Maybe that death certificate could provide an answer sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Sep 2010 21:23
	Name: Charlotte Phenton Death Registration Month/Year: 1964 Age at death (estimated): 68 Registration district: Stepney Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 608
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Sep 2010 21:21
	The only other reference to a Thomas Phenton is his marriage Married after Banns London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 Name: Thomas Richard Phenton Age: 24 Estimated birth year: abt 1893 Spouse Name: Charlotte Jenman Spouse Age: 22 Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 6 May 1917 Parish: St Jude, Bethnal Green County: Middlesex Borough: Tower Hamlets Father Name: James Phenton Spouse Father Name: Frederick Jenman from image:- Thomas Bachelor Age 24 Address:- 1 Camden Street Occupation:- Private 4th Reserves Buffs Father:- James Phenton, deceased, Painter Charlotte Spinster Age 22 No occupation given Father:- Comb Maker Witnesses:- Clark John and Rose Jewman sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: April 2004 Posts: 46,062 Send Message	SylviaInCanada	Report	20 Sep 2010 21:15
	well a family tree on ancestry has a lot of detail onThomas R Branson and Caroline .... including a photo of Thomas R birth certificate Born August 1 1884 Parents:- James Branson and Matilda Double and he died Dec 1 1959, Sibthorpe Rd, London BUT then when I searched for Thomas Phenton ........ that same tree shows up in the index as:- Branson and Archer Public Member Tree 12 attached records, 12 sources photos Thomas Robert Branson [Thomas Robert Phenton] Birth: August 1, 1884 (1 Aug 1884) - Colchester, Essex, England Death: Dec 1, 1959 (1 Dec 1959) - London, England Spouse: Caroline Archer F: James Branson M: Matilda Double Under Facts and Sources Thomas Robert Phenton is added as an Alternative Name ........... no other information. No Thomas R Phenton show up on censuses sylvia
	Researching: My brother, photo taken in September 1991 just a couple of weeks before he died. ............................................................ To help us and to get better results, please post as much detail as you can, especially name, date(s) and place. Also say what you already know.
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 7,821 Send Message	Thelma	Report	20 Sep 2010 11:13
	Did he change his name or are there more than one? birth Thomas Robert Branson 1884 Oct-Nov-Dec Essex army pension Thomas Robert Branson abt 1892 Colchester Essex 12 service record Thomas Robert Branson Colchester Essex 6 1891 Thomas R Branson George, Mary abt 1885 Colchester, Essex, England Son Woolwich, London 1901 Thomas Branson Madler abt 1885 Colchester Son Croydon, Surrey xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Both men are in "the Buffs" Both fathers are a painter Thomas Richard Phenton abt 1893 6 May 1917 Charlotte Jenman St Jude, Bethnal Green
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:48
	Name: Charlotte Phenton Death Registration Month/Year: 1964 Age at death (estimated): 68 Registration district: Stepney Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 608
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:46
	Marriages Jun 1924 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archer Caroline Branson Croydon 2a 822 Branson Thomas R Archer Croydon 2a 822 _____________________________________________ Births Dec 1925 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BRANSON Thomas R Archer Colchester 4a 1256 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1928 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Branson Violet M Archer Yarmouth 4b 27
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:43
	British Army WWI Medal Rolls Index Cards, 1914-1920 Name: Thomas R Phenton Regiment or Corps: Royal West Kent Regiment, Labour Corps Regimental Number: 2980, 439907
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:42
	The mother's MAIDEN name is ALWAYS recorded for her chlidren......no matter how many times she has married.
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 7,821 Send Message	Thelma	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:38
	Can you explain why you think that Thomas RICHARD Phenton who married in 1917 is Thomas ROBERT Phenton father of Alice.
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 341 Send Message	John	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:21
	hi satnav it should be yewman they wrote in down wrong i have found that one but cant find a birth or death for him or any other record apart for a record of a medal but he had a child with caroline archer and she is using the married name phenton and latter was married to thomas branson and had two children but using maiden name caroline archer
	Researching: Archer and Evans _Farrell / macintosh
Member Since: December 2003 Posts: 7,821 Send Message	Thelma	Report	20 Sep 2010 10:06
	marriage Thomas Richard Phenton abt 1893 6 May 1917 Charlotte Jenman St Jude, Bethnal Green
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 341 Send Message	John	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:54
	his second name was robert
	Researching: Archer and Evans _Farrell / macintosh
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:46
	But is it the SAME Thomas Phenton? The one who married Charlotte had a second name...................
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 341 Send Message	John	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:41
	i have the birth cert for alice with father thomas phenton mother caroline phenton formley caroline archer but have found thomas married to charllote a few years before so we are a bit confused
	Researching: Archer and Evans _Farrell / macintosh
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:35
	Births Mar 1923 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phenton Alice M Archer Faversham 2a 1703
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:34
	OK...so not a widow................. Births Mar 1918 (99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PHENTON Alice L Yewman Bethnal Gn 1c 181 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Mar 1928 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phenton Florence M Yewman Bethnal G. 1c 206 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Births Jun 1929 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Phenton Gladys S Yewman Bethnal G. 1c 194 Are you 100% certain that the father of ALICE is the same man?
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:31
	Have you got the marriage cert? The woman he married could have been a widow - WW1 was happening....... When was Thomas born?
Member Since: February 2010 Posts: 18,936 Send Message	Flick	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:30
	Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jewman Charlotte Phenton Bethnal G. 1c 235 Phenton Thomas R Jewman Bethnal G. 1c 235 Yewman Charlotte Phenton Bethnal G. 1c 235
Member Since: March 2004 Posts: 341 Send Message	John	Report	20 Sep 2010 09:08
	trying to track a thomas phenton have him married to charlotte yewman 1917 and a army record for a medal but have him also as the father of alice phenton mothers maiden name archer in around 1923 no record of his birth or marraige to archer or his death
	Researching: Archer and Evans _Farrell / macintosh

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