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and you should buy the marriage certificate which will prove all this because it will say whether Ann was a Widow, and possibly also her maiden name


..... although it will certainly give her father's name which would tell you whether the supposition is accurate.





sylvia

Yeeharr!!
Blimey, I go and have a cuppa and chase a dog out of the garden and you have it cracked.

Yes, I could buy the certificate but Fred is very distantly related - just one of those little niggles I've found in my notes.



One day I might learn to think it through

A big thanks to you all.

B

I was about to chip in - seems you are all in agreement!

I see that Ann is 5 years older than Frederick. Is it possible that she had been married before to a different Mr. Maunder?

There are two other marriages in Hampshire of a Maunder to someone called Ann:-

Name: Robert Maunder
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 833

Spouse Ann Bartlett.

and this one:-

Name: John Henry Maunder
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 843

Spouse Ann Bevis.

EDIT - You're all too quick for me, lol :-)

Kath. x

possibly married his brother second time around -


1871

MAUNDERS, William Head M 40 1831 Devon VIEW
******MAUNDERS, John H Son M 13 1858 Hampshire VIEW
MAUNDERS, Sarah Ann Daughter F 11 1860 Hampshire VIEW
MAUNDERS, Edwin S Son M 7 1864 Hampshire VIEW
******MAUNDERS, Frederick Son M 5 1866 Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
1197 Folio:
5 Page:
10

Registration District:
South Stoneham Sub District:
Stoneham, South Enumeration District:
1 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Botley Municipal Borough:
Address:
Winchester Street, Botley County:
Hampshire

Deaths Sep 1886 (>99%)
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MAUNDER John Henry 28 Portsea 2b 333

1881 England Census about Anne Bevis
Name: Anne Bevis
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Bursledon, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address: 5 Lion Ter
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: General Servant
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Portsea Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Edward M. Wells 69
Elizabeth Wells 69
Rosamond Holland 42
Mary J. Wells 37
Anne Bevis 21
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We are thinking along the same lines Choccy

Time for a mad guess I think

Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
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Bevis Ann Portsea 2b 843
Gass Alice Matilda Portsea 2b 843
MAUNDER John Henry Portsea 2b 843
PINK William Henry Portsea 2b 843




1871
Name: Ann Bevis
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Admijah
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Bursledon, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Bursledon
Ecclesiastical parish: Bursledon
Town: Bursledon
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
Admijah Bevis 42
Ann Bevis 41
John Bevis 20
Ann Bevis 11
Absalom Bevis 8
Sarah Bevis 6



Think you will need the 1890 marriage cert any way

Looks like she was married before -


1881

WELLS, Edward M Head Married M 69 1812 Magistrate And Alderman
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
WELLS, Elizabeth Wife Married F 69 1812
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
HOLLAND, Rosamond Daughter Widow F 42 1839
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
WELLS, Mary J Daughter Single F 37 1844
Portsea
Hampshire VIEW
******BEVIS, Anne Servant Single F 21 1860 General Servant
Bursledon
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG11 Piece:
1146 Folio:
4 Page:
2

Registration District:
Portsea Island Sub District:
Portsea Town Enumeration District:
Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
Portsea Municipal Borough:
Address:
5, Lion Ter, Portsea County:
Hampshire



Marriages Jun 1885 (>99%)
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*****Bevis Ann Portsea 2b 843
Gass Alice Matilda Portsea 2b 843
*****MAUNDER John Henry Portsea 2b 843
PINK William Henry Portsea 2b 843



Deaths Sep 1886 (>99%)
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MAUNDER John Henry 28 Portsea 2b 333

The couple in 1891:-


Name: Frederick T Maunder
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingston St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age

Frederick T Maunder 25
Anne Maunder 30
Frederick W Maunder 2/12

Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 866; Folio 43; Page 35; GSU roll: 6095976.

Kath. x

1901

MAUNDER, Frederick T Head Married M 35 1866 Chief Stoker Ryl Navy
Botley
Hampshire VIEW
MAUNDER, Anne Wife Married F 40 1861
Bursledon
Hampshire VIEW
MAUNDER, Frederick W Son Single M 10 1891 School
Landport
Hampshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
997 Folio:
10 Page:
11

Registration District:
Portsmouth Sub District:
Portsea and Landport Enumeration District:
31 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary with St Barnabas

Civil Parish:
Portsmouth Municipal Borough:
Address:
25, Upper Church Path, Portsmouth County:
Hampshire

891 England Census about Frederick T Maunder
Name: Frederick T Maunder
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Anne
Gender: Male
Where born: Botley, Hampshire, England
Civil parish: Portsea
Ecclesiastical parish: Kingston St Mary
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image
Registration district: Portsea Island
Sub-registration district: Landport
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick T Maunder 25
Anne Maunder 30 burlesdon hants
Frederick W Maunder 2/12
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Record

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She is old enough to have been married before

Is this the marriage:-

Name: Frederick Thomas Maunder
Year of Registration: 1890
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Portsea Island (1837-1900)
County: Hampshire
Volume: 2b
Page: 859

Also on the page is Ann Maunder.

Kath. x

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
BLUNSOM Charles William Portsea 2b 859
Masterman Ellen Sarah Portsea 2b 859
MAUNDER Ann Portsea I. 2b 859
MAUNDER Frederick Thomas Portsea I. 2b 859

for reference

Marriages Jun 1890 (>99%)
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BLUNSOM Charles William Portsea 2b 859
Masterman Ellen Sarah Portsea 2b 859
MAUNDER Ann Portsea I. 2b 859
MAUNDER Frederick Thomas Portsea I. 2b 859

are you saying Frederick Maunder married a Maunder ?

Hi all,
I'm stumped - need an expert.
1911, 1901 and probably 1891, Frederick Thomas Maunder (1865, Botley Hants) had a wife Ann(e) (b about 1860 Bursledon Hants).
1890 FTM apparently married Ann Maunder -Free BMD.
I can't find her in 1881 or 1871 census nor can I find her birth,
I've tried Free BMD 1859/1861 for simply Mau* and Man* surname in South Stoneham registry and also similar surname plus first name Ann* in Hampshire. Only hits are Fred's sisters Sarah Ann and Agnes Ann.
Any suggestions? Please!
B