Genealogy Chat

Hi Jansmith
so sorry not to have replied earlier , as I wrote to choccy I was out all day yesterday and quite honestly didn't expect to have any more replies so I was very pleased to hear from you.
I think that you may be right about John Plowman , the scratched out fathers name of Charles on the army record is very interesting and the age at death is correct .
All in all I am feeling that the records do refer to John who would have been my Great Uncle.
Thank you so much your interest and help it is very much appreciated.
Regards Tinalina

Thanks Choccy
The John William you found parents Charles and Catherine is the correct one , the other one is probably a member of my family , I think that their grandfathers were brothers but have no documents to prove this except a telling census birthplace entry.
Thanks again for your trouble , sorry I did not reply earlier out all day yesterday.
Regards Tinalina

? wifes death
Name: Lily M Plowman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1957
Age at death (estimated): 82
Registration district: Worthing
Inferred County: Sussex
Volume: 5h
Page: 617


??? right age for John
Name: John W Plowman
Death Registration Month/Year: 1954
Age at death (estimated): 71
Registration district: Wood Green
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 415

Eileens death?
Name: Eileen Joyce Plowman
Birth Date: 12 Sep 1920
Death Registration Month/Year: May 2000
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Southend On Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Register number: D6C
District and Subdistrict: 4751D
Entry number: 261

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Dec 1920 (>99%)
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Plowman Eileen J Hartup Edmonton 3a 1202

army records on Ancestry caretaker enlisted Canterbury
marriage 12th April 1917 Kent
so this one next of kin father Charles crossed out and wife named

Name: John W Plowman
Spouse Record Lily M Hartup ** image on army records looks like Lily M Hastings!
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1917
Registration district: Strood
Registration county (inferred): Kent
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 1283


demob. 14 /10 /1919

????

1911 -

PLOWMAN, Charles Head Married M 62 1849 Stud Groom Domestic Leicester Melton Moubray VIEW
PLOWMAN, Catherine Wife Married
36 years F 55 1856 Leicester Cold Newton VIEW
PLOWMAN, William Son Single M 27 1884 Valet Domestic Leicester Lowesby VIEW
PLOWMAN, Kate Daughter Single F 17 1894 Leicester Lowesby VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19334 Reference:
RG14PN19334 RG78PN1153 RD408 SD1 ED6 SN48

Registration District:
Melton Mowbray Sub District:
Melton Mowbray Enumeration District:
6 Parish:
Gaddesby

Address:
The Oaklands Stable Gaddesby Leicester County:
Leicestershire

1901
Name: William Plowman
Age: 18
Estimated birth year: abt 1883
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Lowesby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Cold Newton
Ecclesiastical parish: Lowesby
Town: Cold Newton
County/Island: Leicestershire

this birth this is the district for Lowesby
Name: John William Plowman
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Billesdon
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 22

1891 this one then
Name: John William Plowman
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Charles
Mother's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: Lowesby, Leicestershire, England
Civil parish: Lowesby
Ecclesiastical parish: Lowesby
Town: Lowesby
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England



Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Plowman 42
Catherine Plowman 35
Ada W Plowman 11
John William Plowman 7
Alice Plowman 5
Lancelot Plowman 3

Thank you so much Choccy for the trouble you have taken , infortunately the parents are not those of my John Plowman , however I will keep the info for future reference as he very well may be a more distant member of the same family.
thanks again Tinalina

1901 England Census
Name: John W Plowman
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John R
Mother's Name: Matilda
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England

Civil parish: Leicester Formerly St Margaret
Ecclesiastical parish: Leicester St Peter
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: North East Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 216
Household Members: Name Age
John R Plowman 51
Matilda Plowman 48
Margaret A Plowman 19
Matilda G Plowman 17
Mary E Plowman 16
Elsie B Plowman 14
John W Plowman 9




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2995; Folio: 17; Page: 26.




Australia Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: John William Plowman
Death Place: Kyneton, Victoria
Age: 74
Father's Name: Robe William
Mother's Name: Unknown Matilda
Registration Year: 1965
Registration Place: Victoria
Registration Number: 20822



Source Information:

Ancestry.com. Australia Death Index, 1787-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources.

hi Joy and Jonesey
Tried the site but no luck with john Plowman.
The site is great thanks for the tip.
Tinalina

Thanks Choccy , the birthdate is eight years out but I cannot find a marriage or death for him so it could possibly be him . Will check it when I have Ancestry again.
Thanks for your interest.
Tinalina

There's a tree on Ancestry which has a John William Plowman born 1891 in Leicestershire marrying in Australia in 1918 and dying in 1965.

Could this be him ?

thank you for the replies Joy and Jonesey I will have a look at the site now.
Tinalina

You could try here -
http://www.cwgc.org/
The "Debt of Honour Register" is the Commission's database listing the 1.7 million men and women of the Commonwealth forces who died during the two world wars and the 23,000 cemeteries, memorials and other locations worldwide where they are commemorated. The register can also be searched for details of the 67,000 Commonwealth civilians who died as a result of enemy action in the Second World War.

I wonder if anybody would help me , I hear from a member of the family that John William Plowman born Lowesby Leics. may have died in WW1 .
My Ancestry sub has just run out so I cannot answer him at present , I looked on FMP and there was a likely entry but I only have a sub for the 1911 on there.
I would be so grateful if someone could do a look up for me .
Thanks Tinalina