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I'm not sure about these baptisms, now I've had the time to look, apart from Alice May Phillips in 1886 which is a possible.
Some of the other names of baptised children (Alice, William, John) match the names of Ada's siblings , but not all. There are baptisms for Lizzie Louise, Louise Charlotte, Eleanor Hanna, etc, with parents John & Louisa Phillips, but I'm wondering if there were several parents by the name John & Louisa Phillips in the area at that time. It's not like John Phillips is an unusual name!!

We know from the 1911 census that John & Louisa Phillips had 11 children, and 3 died.
From the census information given earlier in this thread, we can count 9 of the children and get their approx year of birth: Louisa b1880, Ada b1881, Lilly b1882, Alice b1886, William b1888, Mabel b1890, Amelia b1892, John b1895 and Harry b1897. And that's what makes me think, on closer inspection, that YOUR John & Louisa may not be featuring in this Baptisms index very much, if at all,

K.

P.S. I've just taken a look at Phillips births, in the district of Poplar 1880-1900 and there's one heck of a lot of Phillips families!!! I don't know how you're going to determine which are the 3 children who died, though it's fairly straighforward to find the ones who did feature on those census returns. If you wanted certificates, that is. Are you familiar with Freebmd.org.uk?
K

Not come across a Mary Noolands x

Thank you Karen i do appriecate the time you have spent on it and would be grateful for any help and advice needed... I'm off out to fat club later so wont be online till 9.30 ish...

Have a good day xx

Just one thing....Mary Noolands, the 74 yr old boarder with the family in the 1911.
If you don't know who she is already, I would say don't discount her, she could be an in-law who could lead you to further branches. Worth looking into.

K

Thats my Grandad xx

There are other (possible) baptisms for siblings of your Ada.
But....
a) There's obviously more than one John & Louisa Phillips in the area so there are quite a few to sort through.
b) I don't mind giving you ALL of them, and let you decipher who belongs to who.
c) BUT I really have to go out now!!

If nobody else can give you the baptisms I'm happy to do it, but it will have to be tonight when I'm back.

K

BAPTISM.
LMA, London Baptims 1813-1906.

Name: Thomas Henry Jarvis
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 22 Jul 1906
Father's Name: Thomas Malcolm Jarvis
Mother's Name: Ada Jarvis
Parish: St Mary, Bromley St Leonard, County of London.
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Original image gives birth date 4 July 1906.
Father's occupation: Carman.
Address: 67 Raverley Street.
Ceremony Performed by F I Robinson (could be F T Robinson, handwriting is a bit flowery).


K

ok Karen...

Just to let you know i'm not ignoring you... Just trying to transfer this info onto my tree... lol

Its so exciting... loving it... thank you x

Could be that we've got 2 families of John & Louisa Phillips in the area...there are certainly others (John & Louisa) who give lots of christian names, in neighbouring areas.
This one is doubtful, the more I look at it.
Name: Alfred Henry John Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 15 Oct 1889
Father's Name: John Phillips
Mother's Name: Louisa Phillips
Parish: All Hallows
Borough: Southwark
County: Middlesex

Address; 11 Queens Court, Gt Suffolk Street. Father's occupation: Carman. No date of birth given.

I know some mentioned he was a foreman at Wharf at one point... I'm only going by what my dad and two sisters are saying

Another baptism, another Alice? First one died perhaps? or a different family.

Name: Alice Maud Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 20 Oct 1889
Father's Name: John Phillips
Mother's Name: Louisa Phillips
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Original Image: date of birth 29 Sept 1889, father's occupation Labourer. Address 36 Bole Street.

Another baptism..
....possibly?

Name: William Herbert Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 1 Jan 1888
Father's Name: John Phillips
Mother's Name: Louisa Phillips
Parish: St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Original image states birth date as 11 Dec 1887, father's occupation Carman. Address is 7 Louvin Street (or Lanvin/Lourin Street?) .

More likely this:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Jarvis
Name: Ada Jarvis
Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1938
Age at death (estimated): 57
Registration district: Poplar
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1c
Page: 411

I know Raverley St... My dad has told me over the years that his nan lived there... So that confirms that

thanks again x

Original image (1911 census) confirms they've been married for 7 yrs and have had 1 child, still living.

K

Thats interesting...

Some one in the family has given me a date of 23 Mar 1937 for her death but no place of death again i can't confirm or find details...

Trac x

This could be them in 1911....

JARVIS, Thomas Malcom Head Married M 30 1881 Waterside Labourer Beddington Surrey
JARVIS, Ada Wife Married 7 years F 30 1881 Bow London E
JARVIS, Thomas Henry Son M 5 1906 Bow London E
NOOLANDS, Mary Boarder Widow F 74 1837 Cork Ireland

RG number: RG14
Piece: 1711
Reference: RG14PN1711 RG78PN59 RD22 SD2 ED34 SN332

Registration District: Poplar
Sub District: Bromley
Enumeration District: 34
Parish: Poplar Borough

Address: 65 Raverley St Bow London E
County:
London

???

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Ada Jarvis
Name: Ada Jarvis
Death Registration Month/Year: 1945
Age at death (estimated): 65
Registration district: Ilford
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 293

Rose

Looking at LMA records, London Baptisms for your Ada Phillips but cannot see a record, though there is this....

Name: Alice May Phillips
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 6 May 1886
Father's Name: John Phillips
Mother's Name: Louisa Phillips
Parish: St Mary, Bromley St Leonard
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

Original image gives her birth date as 15 April 1886. Father's occupation is difficult to read, could be Wool Broker. No address given, it just states Bromley.

Karen this is fantastic..

I cant find a death for ada Phillips... She married Thomas Malcolm Jarvis 31 Jul 1904 Romford and they only had two children listed Thomas Henry Jarvis 1906 { my Grandad} and brother Ernest John Jarvis 1914...


Sorry for asking so much.. My grandad never spoke about his father or brother

xx