Genealogy Chat

Thank you Sylvia - I wasn’t going to mention any names - as don’t want to start it all off again & it’s not a vendetta either

Some of the comments really made me so cross and i have to admit upset too as it opened old wounds

I agree some people really do need help & quickly too - I don’t think Pity is the word I would use - After bringing back all those memories i had tried to forget - my only thought at the time was that someone needed a good slap to bring them to their senses. You cannot live your life like that - no matter how upset you are - you have to get on with life.

I have had a lot of sorrow & grief in my life & at one point I lost 5 close relatives within 6 weeks of each other. Some things can still set me off even after several years.

The slightest little things can just trigger something -

However i can certainly say it has never made me react in that way - i have my few moments of sadness & then remember all the good times.

Anyway - let’s put all this behind us now and concentrate on happier topics

Its nearly Easter - anyone planning anything exciting or just a relaxing few days at home like us

Arthur - good luck with the new computer & i hope you get all the answers you want from the probate situation.

Take care all

Hi everyone ...............


Tabitha .......... you're referring to Shirley's thread??


Yep, poor Shirley, she felt personally attacked ............. BUT she did get a whole lot of support, both on the thread and by pms, and I think that she now understands, as should you, that one person always behaves like that. Very OTT ............ and quite frankly, I believe she needs help right now.


There was no excuse for what she said ........... and it seems that GR agrees as the 2 posts by her that were RR'd have been removed :-)


Just pity her ...................... don't let her upset you xxxx



Arthur ....... I hope you get things sorted out with that cousin :-)


Good luck xx

Have had terrible problems with my laptop resulting in me discarding it and buying a new one. My nephew who is a computer whiz has rescued all my important info - all addresses of friends - had telephone numbers on my phone.

Still having trouble with new laptop, but can get here and other favourite sites.

Sylvia

My 'cousin' - not sure what the exact relationship as she is the daughter of my father's cousin - still not playing ball. The Probate Research Company to which my brother, sister and I are signed up, has just sent her a strongly worded legal letter asking for details and stating that it may be necessary to take her to court if matters are not resolved by the end of March.
Talk about "Light the blue touch paper and retire!"

My 'cousin' should be sensible and sign up to the same company as us - all details to finalise the estate are known

Well back to earth with a bump -What a lovely peaceful thread

I can’t stand bullies – i had enough of that at school and certainly don’t like it on here & there is no need for it anywhere on this site.

This thread was my haven when i was in deep depression & not once did i feel the need to run & hide from anyone on here. Everyone on that thread (which was this one’s predecessor) was very understanding and helped me through it all.

Phew what a relief - It looks like a certain thread has run its course - never thought it would end

I didn’t know the majority of the people on the thread but I felt bullied just reading some of the comments – goodness only knows how the original poster felt - I just wanted to give her a hug.

I really wanted to say on there that some people need to grow up & get on with their life - if a small thing like an innocent comment can make that one person bully people needlessly, that person urgently needs to see a counsellor and quickly. I cant even feel sorry for them - its just so unfair.

However I kept the peace & gave up as some people will never change.

I found that when i met one of the biggest school bullies over 20 years later. She was still a bully she gave you that look (all sweetness & butter wouldn't melt ) & said something totally different - and yes thinking about it now - I do hate her as just thinking about her now brings it all back. thats what that thread has done to me in 2 days.

Have i learnt my lesson? - no I will probably still pick up a thread & read it - this time try not to get involved.

ITake care everyone

Sylvia

Thought I had made a breakthrough with my cousin who is administrating the estate of Grace Hack.

I am aware from the Probate Research Company that they have found all entitled heirs - very impressive as Grace Hack had a German father born abt 1867 in Germany. They were pipped at the post when applying to administer the estate.

My cousin is becoming frustrated at not finding details for Grace's uncle George Hill - my earlier post related to this. She now recognises that she also needs to trace August, brother of Grace after the 1911 Census.

It is obvious to me that she has no clue how to finalise the administration. I encouraged her to sign up with the Probate Research Company detailing that they had all the answers. I added that if she was having difficulty with George Hill & Augustus Hack, then she would find it impossible to trace the German relatives.

She has now come back to say - it is unnecessary to trace the German relatives as Grace's mother Gertrude survived her husband. Who has given her this misguided advice I do not know, but I am now becoming very frustrated with her.

My brother and sister and I have signed up to the Probate Research Company as we realized that we did not have the experience to trace George Hill - who we thought was the person who had died. When we became aware through my cousin that it was George's niece Grace Hack, we realized that this made no difference.

The amount we will receive is not likely to be great, but the family history info is priceless.

Arthur

Sally

Hope he will be home soon.

My ex Brother-in-law joked at his elder son's wedding "Dressmakers are really good these days. You would never know the bride is 5 months pregnant"
My mother thought it was bad taste but was not at all bothered by the bride being pregnant. She was glad, however, that my father was not alive to see it, as he would have been shocked.

Arthur

hello all

my oh is in hospital again
when I went to blind club yesterday he was running a bath and was quite all right but on my returne he was not making sense the bath water was still there so I called the doc and he sent for an ambulance have been to see him this afternoon and he has had some blood and a lot better they will give him his horemone injecktion and his drip to help strengthen his bones while hes in nurse said did not think he would be long before he came home

Arthur my gt gran had 4 children wthout marring and my nana born 1873 had her first child not long after she married I think it was comman to have a rushed marrage

sally w <3

Arthur


do you realise that Gertrude was possibly pregnant when she married August??


They married in the September quarter 1900 .............. so no earlier than July 1 and no later than September 30


William Charles Gordon was registered in the March quarter 1901 .............


babies had to be registered within 6 weeks of birth.


So William Charles Gordon could have been born as early as mid-November 1900 but not after March 31st 1901.





That still does not help us with George Hill, who seems to have completely disappeared after the 1901 census.


On the 1901 Census, George is shown as born in Hackney, London.


Using freebmd, I found 4 George Hills registered in Hackney between 1895 and March quarter 1897 ..................


Births Mar 1895 (>99%)

Hill George Sidney Hackney 1b 622


Births Sep 1895 (>99%)

Hill George Stanley Hackney 1b 585


Births Dec 1896 (>99%)

Hill George Alfred S Hackney. 1b 520


Births Mar 1897 (>99%)

Hill George Frederick Hackney 1b 478


I could not find a death that could match these occurring between 1901 and 1911.

Arthur ...........



just a little information on the side .............


my maternal grandmother was a very stern Victorian lady, born in 1884 and married in 1902 ................. loving towards me, but expecting high standards of moral behaviour



I bought her marriage certificate and my mother's birth certificate some years ago

........ later study of the two certificates side by side showed that my mother was born less than 7 months after their marriage :-)



I need to do more study ................ the baptism may just be a case of the vicar getting mixed up!

Sylvia/Anne

Thanks for your interest.

I do not have Henry Hill's death certificate. I employed a professional genealogist who gave me information that he died in the Apr-May-Jun quarter of 1894.

This evening I went on the Deceased Online site to see if I could find his burial. despite looking from 1894 to 1900 I could not find him.

I do not have birth details for George, but the only daughter who might have been his mother - rather than Rosa - is surely Gertrude as she was of an age. Do not think my grandmother, Lilian Maud, could have been the mother - she was a very severe, strict person - a 'Victorian'. Edith Grace was too young.

Tracing George after the 1901 Census is virtually impossible, although I believe that the Probate Research company has achieved the impossible. Unfortunately administration has been granted to a granddauhter of Edith Grace Hill (married name Owen). She is having great difficulty killing off George and any descendants.

I have just looked at the birth of Charles Haack - first born of Gertrude and her Husband. On the baptism record for William Charles August Hack, father is August Joachim Christian Hack and mother is given as Rosa Constance - now I am really confused. It is the correct record as the address is the same as given on the 1901 Census.

Any thoughts?

Arthur

I too have had a quick look in my lunch hour and can find the 1901 but nothing else.

I tried the Death records but nothing jumped out at me

I will keep on searching for you

Arthur

I've only just looked here, and ancestry is acting up a bit.


You say that Henry died in 1894, and George is shown as age 5 on the 1901 Census, giving a birth year of 1896 +/- 1


Do you have Henry's death certificate to show exactly when Henry died?


I'm puzzled by the time line



Have you found George on the 1911 Census?



I've looked quickly ................. he does not seem to be with his sisters.


I have 2 thoughts .......... one is that he died before 1911


the other is the possibility that he was not Rosa's child, but of one of the girls?

I would very much appreciate help on a matter that is holding up resolution of distribution of an estate where the person died without leaving a will.

The person who died was Grace hack , daughter of Gertrude Eliza Hill & August Haack (changed to Hack as he was a German living in England).

Gertrude had 2 sisters, Lilian Maud Hill, my grandmother, and Edith Grace Hill. there was a brother George Hill - and he is the mystery person.

George Hill is shown on the 1901 Census living with his sisters and widowed mother, Rosa C Hill nee Britten. His age is shown as 5. His father Henry Hill had died in 1894 :-S Sadly Rosa died in 1904.

The administrator of the estate is having trouble finding a birth for George - can you help please

Please let me know if you need further details.

His Sue, and everyone


Sue ............ I hope the surgery goes well xxxx




it was foggy here this morning, then it just became grey cloudy .......... but now the sun is trying to break through. It's 2 pm ......... so we might get a bit of a sunny afternoon


Our clocks went forward on Saturday night / Sunday morning.

It's awful dark at 7 am ................. again :-(





it's my grandson's 5th birthday today ............. but they had the party on Saturday


Mum and Dad rented a room in the canoe club clubhouse (which is less than 5 minutes walk away from their house), so no messing of the house.


Little one's honorary aunt (who will "inherit" him if anything happens to his parents) made his birthday cake .........................


Daughter sent me a photo of it ............



4 cubes of Lego .................. 2 blue, 1 red and 1 yellow :-D


He's mad about Lego :-D

All the best for the op Sue - hope it cools down a bit for you

Can you send your warm weather in this direction Please

susan
I hope the op goes well

cooler wheather comeing your way

whooooooooooooooooo running out of puff whooooo

sally w <3

Susan

Hope all goes well with the surgery.

We are enjoying a run of sunny weather, but it is still cold - maximum 15C today. It is pleasant to get out into the garden.

Further north the weather is not so good and Scotland is 'enjoying' rain and possible floods.

Arthur

Hi Everyone

Nice to be back if only for a short while.

Like all of you I never put anything in my tree that has not been checked and documented,I have found a lot of bad info on Ancestry but find the owners of the trees that you try to correct do not like you telling them they are wrong,I don't bother anymore .

My blood pressure is now OK at the moment ,it just does funny things at times like dropping all of a sudden ...so far so good.

We go up to Perth city on Monday for the first of the hubbys surgeries,should only be up there for a few days as we both hate going up to the big smoke.

There has been a lot of bush fires this year mostly started by young boys who are nearly men but don't act like men,many people have nearly lost their homes because of them .
I am pleased to say it is starting to cool of abit,only a day here and there around the 32c,that is a lot cooler than we have been having.

Roll on Winter,I am much better in Winter than Summer :-),off to finish my ironing :-(.

Love to you all <3

Suex

Hi evryone


Sallie ............. our clocks, and those in the US, go forward this coming Sunday, March 8


it's far too early!

hello all

I found my gt grand dad on a ancestry tree living in the u s a with his wife and children they never left Nottinghamshire /Derbyshire so I put a comment on saying so and a warning for others and they blocked me

so I asked ancestry if they could re move them they said no I should ask the tree holder I asked how as I was blocked did not hear any more

it is nice to see you all posting

we have a few hideing hope they are well

soon be spring :-|only 3 weeks till the clocks go forward

sally w <3