Genealogy Chat

Thank you all very much for your input. I am actually researching for a friend in Perth, Western Australia - Nellie Louise Cole was his Paternal Grandmother. All that he 'knew' about her was that she was born c.1880 in Yorkshire and that she married his Grandfather in Perth. Well, today I have been busy trying to find their Marriage and children's Births on the W.Australia BMD and hey presto! I also found her Death which, miracle of miracles, gave her Father and Mother's names!!!!!!! Frederick and Elizabeth! This means my 1901 Census Nellie is incorrect but the one I found in 1881 is definitely her, with parents Frederick and Elizabeth, and gives Birth Place as Leicester, so the Birth Entry for Nellie Louise Cole in 1878 in Leicester has to be hers! I am thrilled - just needs proving with Certificates now!
Riddle solved - her name was Nellie!!!!

Anyway, thank you all for your help which spurred me on to further research!

Hazel

We have a couple of women called Nell in the family - they were both Elizabeths

Jill

Hazel

If you tell us how you got back to this person - marriage, children etc, we will be able to give more concrete help - hopefully

Possible marriage.

Helen Louise Cole 1902 June qt West Ham gro ref 4a 485


Spouse either Albert Edward Lilly or John Grime/Grimes

1911 census
Albert Lilly 1877
Helen Lilly 1880
living West Ham


1901 census
Albert E Lilly 1877 Bow London occ clerk commercial
living Leyton


Sorry I cant view full details but when I went back and checked the 1911 census putting Bow as place of birth and clerk for occupation for Albert it comes up with the one I previously found

I had a great aunt Nell - her real name was Alice!

My great Grandfather (born 1880) was Stanley - on my gran's birth cert, his marriage cert - even on his gravestone!
I had terrible trouble finding his birth. On the 1901 census he was Stanley. I couldn't find him on the 1881 or 1891 cenus under Stanley. In the end, I looked for his sister (born 1887), found her on the 1891 census with 4 brothers - none of whom was called Stanley - but there was one born at the right time & place called Giffard, 2 older brothers called Herbert and Ernest, and a younger brother called Ivan.
Looked for Giffard on the 1881 census - he was there - but his elder brothers were Ernest and Sylvanus (born at exactly the same time as Herbert)
Went back to 1891 census - younger brother no longer called Ivan - he was Frederick!
The brothers had, as soon as capable changed their unusual names to more common ones! I had to double check everything - but I knew they lived within a small area of Cornwall, and their father was a Blacksmith

This may be a way to search for your Nellie.

1881 England Census
about Jesse Cole
Name: Jesse Cole
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Aveley, Essex, England
Civil parish: Branston
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street Address: Heighington Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status: View image
Occupation: Guard On New Railway
Registration district: Lincoln
Sub-registration district: Lincoln South-West
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jesse Cole 26
Elizabeth Cole 23
Sarah Jane Cole 3
Benjamin W. Cole 2
Emma E. Cole

Rose

1891 England Census
about Rosie Cole
Name: Rosie Cole
Age: 3/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1891
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Jesse
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Tyersall, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Pudsey
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Tyersal
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Bradford
Sub-registration district: Pudsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jesse Cole 36
Elizabeth Ann Cole 33
Sarah Jane Cole 13
Benjamin Wm Cole 12
Emily Elizabeth Cole 8
Alice Cole 7
Lily Cole 4
Gertrude Cole 2
Rosie Cole 3/12

Rose

Sarah Jane Cole had a sister called Emily Elizabeth Cole born then.

Rose

Did she marry, have children? You need to explain how you are related so we can work backwards.

Rose

Thank you all for your input. Unfortunately I still cannot find a Birth for Nellie (who I believe maybe the 1901 b.1880 Hull, Yorkshire one) and don't know how to find her out!!

Hazel

When did she marry and who was her husband

could be Helen, a great aunt Helen of mine was known as Aunty Nell

My GGrandma Nell was christened Ellen.

are you sure it was Yorkshire ?


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Nellie Louise Cole
Year of Registration: 1878
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Leicester (1837-1974)
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 7a
Page: 289

Is this her in 1901?

Name: Nellie Cole
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Sister
Gender: Female
Where born: Hull, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Walthamstow
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Walthamstow
County/Island: Essex
Country: England



Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Walthamstow
ED, institution, or vessel: 59
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 59
Household Members: Name Age
William J Cleaver 28
Sarah Cleaver 24 born Hartlepool
Nellie Cole 21

Where did you get the info you have?

And what are you hoping for?

Hazel, my Gran was a Nellie. Her name was Eleanor Anne. But I knew another Nellie and her name was Mary Ellen.
Not much help I know, but there are so many variations.
Julia in Derbyshire

I'm looking for a Nellie Louise Cole b.abt.1880 in Yorkshire but having no luck and am wondering whether Nellie is short for anything other than Ellen (I've tried that!) Any ideas gratefully received.
Thanks
Hazel