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Hello and thankyou for your help,
I have wondered and wondered all day..
There are quite a few Baldams ..but not in my line.
I have contacted someone on here and they were very helpful..but did not know of Isabella..
I was over the moon to see the Stubbings name on ancestry and did write to them but heard nothing back...
There was an Aunt Aggie..
Thankyou again
Christine
Oh There seem to be qiute a few George Baldams

Christine there are a few people on Ancestry with Baldams in their tree - parents George and Catherine, and Emma Agnes Leah and Violet. One such person appears to be a George Stubbings, descended from Emma Agnes Leah. Does his name mean anything to you?

If you don't have Ancestry, I can contact him for you.

I've just taken another look at the Baldam births, and I wondered the same thing about all the other names. I wondered whether George Pearson was actually George William or George William S.

The Agnes Leah b 1898 is actually Emma Agnes Leah, Elizabeth 1909 is Rhoda Elizabeth, Violet 1900 is Violet Lavinia, so it looks like a family fond of middle names, perhaps Isabella had another name. I haven't found a birth for George Pearson Baldam in 1902.

She wasn't the second youngest if Charles Balldam b 1913 mmn Mitchinson is another brother.

Hi Christine ,
like you i have a relative( my grandmother )
that i cant find a birth for .. only on the census saying that
she was born in 1877 i have her marriage cert and her death cert .
and they both imply that she was born in 1877 ..
But i have all of her brothers and sisters births ...
she must have been forgotten ..lol
Hazelx

Can you account for all Isabella's siblings?
Do you know what happened to any 'sisters'?

I ask because I have known a child to be registered with a particular forename and be known through life ( and at baptism) by something quite different.
A check of baptisms would be useful, to see if
a) Is Isabella listed in the baptism register
b) Could any of her siblings infact be Isabella?

Gwyn

Hi Christine
Sorry for not coming back on after I encouraged you to put details on last evening - had to go to bed with a migraine !
It seems as though there may not be a BIRTH registration for Isabella BUT is there a BAPTISM ? Do you know if the other children were baptised? Was there a particular church in the area that the children were baptised?
Joan

Dear Christine

Not having a big tree doesn't matter. It's all the more fun making it grow!

Sadly, I don't have anyone left to ask, either.

I started to reseach mine in 1989 when my mother was still alive. She died in 1994 and I'd love her to see the family tree that I have gathered together - she'd have been so interested - and I could ask some of those questions I wish I'd asked when I had the chance!

Janet

Thankyou..and thankyou for sharing your story with me...
I am not brilliant at all this...and I havent got the biggest tree.,But what I have on my tree is special to me ...not just to gather names..But I am so interested...
I dont have a family that I can ask questions about the past anymore..
Thankyou very much
Christine xxx

Sometimes, one child is not registered. Our ancestors made mistakes; sometimes they baptised some children and 'forgot' to get one done.

My great great grandparents had a child who died aged just a few weeks. His mother died before him. His death was registered but not his birth.

I wish you good luck; I have also lain awake at night wondering about baptisms and marriages! Better than worrying about bills and present family problems.

Dear Birdsinanest..
I have never really thought to do that before...
My brain is really ticking now
Christine x

Thankyou all very much..Yes thats the marriage of Isabellas parents..
Its so so frustrating isent it...
I lay awake and just wonder..all the time..
So strange though out of all them children why not register Isabella..
Many thanks to you all for looking for me,and your own stories
Thankyou
Christine x

Christine
If you get a copy of Edith's birth certificate you will know if her mother was called Catherine.

1901
Name: Geo Pearson Baldam
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Gender: Male
Where born: No Ormesby, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Ormesby
Ecclesiastical parish: Ormesby Holy Trinity
Town: North Ormesby
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Ormesby
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 235
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Pearson Baldam 27
Catherine Baldam 25
Agnes Baldam 2
Violet Baldam 8 months

I wonder if the Sedgefield marriage is correct?

Births Dec 1917
Baldam Edith Mitchinson Sedgefield 10a 292

Ah, the marriage looks more likely, then.

Maybe Isabella's birth just wasn't registered. Just one of those things.

Maybe her mother was unwell and father was busy looking after the others and worried about his wife and new baby. Grandparents/relatives filling the house and he just forgot until it was just too late.

At least it looks as though you can get back further with the marriage and births of the others.

Good luck

Janet

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Baldam George Pearson Middlesborough 9d 924
Mitchinson Catherine Middlesbro' 9d 924

1911

HOUSEHOLD BALDAM AGNES LEAH F 1900 11 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM ELIZABETH F 1909 2 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM GEORGE PEARSON M 1873 38 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM GEORGE PEARSON M 1902 9 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM JOHN WILLIAM M 1903 8 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM PRUDENCE F 1905 6 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding
HOUSEHOLD BALDAM CATHRINE F 1875 36 Middlesbrough Yorkshire North Riding

is this it ?

Marriages Sep 1898 (>99%)
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Baldam George Pearson Middlesborough 9d 924
Mitchinson Catherine Middlesbro' 9d 924