Genealogy Chat

Carole

Have you tried to contact Angela by sending a message as this thread was posted in 2009

GB

George Varney
mentioned in the record of George Varney and Selina Varney
Name: George Varney
Spouse's Name: Selina Varney
Event Date: 03 Mar 1875
Event Place: Eddlesborough, Buckingham, England
Father's Name: William Varney

HI Reg's g. grandfather was the brother of my ggg grandfather William Varney b1840 Aylesbury.so I am a descendant but many times removed. I also loved Reg in On the Buses, even before I knew we were related. Also my brother is a bus driver. regards Carole

Thanks for all your hard work
I do have some certificates
My biggest problem is George Varney aged 3
Staying with William & Elizabeth Varney he is their Grandchild
Their daughter Selina Varney ne Varney gave birth to him and his sister
Elizabeth.

George Varney c1841 is their father.

However it is his father that I can't connect to make the whole thing right.
On Selina and George's marriage cert it says that Henry is his father.

And William is her father.

So where do I find Henry Varney father of George
Would love to make this connection.

Angie

I'm not seeing a connection with your families. It could be the Needham side who had the disease.

Rose

Angela, as explained, you need to be working backwards through solid facts you know and seeing if there is a connection. This requires buying certificates.

1851 England Census
about James Varney
Name: James Varney
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1785
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stowe, Buckinghamshire, England

Civil parish: Stowe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Leckhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 11 and 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members: Name Age
James Varney 66
William Varney 27
Ann Varney 23
Elizabeth Varney 26
Harry Johnson 3
Serina Varney 3 Mo

Rose

1841 England Census
about Willm Vanney
Name: Willm Vanney
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1829
Gender: Male
Where born: Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Stowe
Hundred: Buckingham
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Leckhampstead
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Vanney 55
Henry Vanney 15
Mary Vanney 20
Jas Vanney 15
Ann Vanney 14
Willm Vanney 12

Rose

1881 England Census
about George Varney
Name: George Varney
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Stowe, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Stowe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street Address: Dadford
Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Leckhampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Varney 50 Stowe
Elizabeth Varney 56
William Varney 24
Ann Varney 22
John Varney 17
Thomas Varney 14
Elizabeth Varney 5
George Varney 3

Rose

1901:

1901 England Census
about George Varney
Name: George Varney
Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Dodford, Buckinghamshire, England
Civil parish: Stowe
Ecclesiastical parish: Stowe St Mary
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Registration district: Buckingham
Sub-registration district: Buckingham
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 47
Household Members: Name Age
George Varney 24
Ellen Varney 27
Tris S E Varney 5 months
Harold E Dancer 9
Eric V Dancer 6
Edward G Stonell 6

Rose

Schedule type Last names First names Sex Birth year Age in 1911 District / other County / other Transcript Original page
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY ELLEN F 1874 37 Buckingham Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY GEORGE M 1876 35 Buckingham Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY HILDA F 1908 3 Buckingham Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY LESLIE M 1906 5 Buckingham Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY IRIS F 1901 10 Buckingham Buckinghamshire
HOUSEHOLD VARNEY THOMAS M 1903 8 Buckingham Buckinghamshire


Rose

Is this his birth?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about John Leslie Varney
Name: John Leslie Varney
Year of Registration: 1905
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Buckingham
County: Buckinghamshire, Northamptonshire, Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 967

Rose

Sorry if I have repeated myself,

My Grandfather was John Leslie Varney
also known as Les , or LJ Varney.

He had milk bottles with his name on them
He was farming at Kennel Farm, Little Missenden, Bucks.

His father was George Varney
His mother was Ellen Varney ne Stonell
She was married before to a Mr Dancer.
Most of this Varney line farmed around the area and lived nearby.

Thanks for your interest

Angela

You are probably right about the disease being misdiagnosed years ago. Especially as the symptoms are alike.

Glad to hear you are keeping well

Thanks for all the infomation, I will try and make sense of it all and hopefully join the dots to get them together
Didn't really want to go into HD v St Vititus Dance, but Doctors weren't very good at separating any of these types of illnesses.
HD was a rare desease at one time so not usually picked up as different
A lot of village Doctors would only see one or two cases in their life time.
My line knew it as "Varney" desease.
My Father called it St Vitus Dance so did an Aunt in England.
Doctors aren't always right even these days, sometimes get it wrong.
My husband was being treated for heatburn and ended up in hospital and had to have surgery for his heart.
My Doctor didn't have an HD patient on his books until I appeared.
He's been waiting 20 years to see the the first signs
I do however have a specialist Doc in this field to

Many thanks
Angela

a possible 1841 for thomas
1841 census

Name Thomas Varney
Age 9
Estimated Year of Birth 1832
Relationship to Head of Household
Occupation Juvenile
Address Whitehall Street
District Aylesbury & Buckingham
Parish
Administrative County Buckingham
Birth Place Unknown
Birth County YES
in house
elizabeth 36 lace maker
john 13
richard 11
thomas 9
HO 107 / 62 / 3

hi thomas and sarah in 1901

1901 census

Address 30 Benges St
Civil Parish West Ham
Rural District
Town or Village or Hamlet
Ecclesiastical Parish St Lukes
Parliamentary Borough or Division West Ham S Div
County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District West Ham
Administrative County West Ham
Householder 1
Name Alfred Varney
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 20
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Labourer In Factory
Employment Status
Where Born Essex West Ham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 2
Name Annie Varney
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 18
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Essex West Ham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 3
Name Emily Varney
Relation to Head of Family Daughter
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 17
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Essex West Ham
Language
Infirmity
Householder 4
Name Sarah Varney
Relation to Head of Family Wife
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 58
Sex Female
Profession or Occupation
Employment Status
Where Born Bucks Aylesbury
Language
Infirmity
Householder 5
Name Thomas Varney
Relation to Head of Family Head
Condition as to Marriage Married
Age Last Birthday 69
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Dock Labourer
Employment Status
Where Born Bucks Aylesbury
Language
Infirmity
Householder 6
Name Walter Varney
Relation to Head of Family Son
Condition as to Marriage Single
Age Last Birthday 24
Sex Male
Profession or Occupation Labourer In Factory
Employment Status
Where Born Essex West Ham
Language
Infirmity

Angela.

Can you post your grandfathers details and then someone will be able to trace back for you to see if they can find a link

Googling St Vitus Dance also called Sydenhams chorea is associated with rheumatic fever. RF usually starts with a strep throat or tonsillitis.It has similar symptoms to Huntingtons but the main problem is damage to the heart valves
It doesnt say it is hereditary.

Huntingtons disease used to be known as Huntingtons chorea from the Greek for choreography or dance. This is an inherited disease

That was quick where are you.
I am in NZ

The desease is written in his book as St Vitus Dance, this is now known as Huntingtons of which my Mum died of.
My sister and I both have it now.
Would love to make the connection because I think we deserve to claim someone famous in our tree.
He came from London which isn't too far from Bucks.
What do you think?

Angela

How do I go about finding out if my mother's line of Varney is connected to Reg Varney (actor and comedian).
I have read his book and his sister Bella had a hereditary desease, just like my Mum's, her family came from Bucks.
Apart from the surname my Grandfather was also quite short for a man.
Many thanks
Angela