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there is this death which would fit in with the birth quarter of Stella Shaw reg in Jun Q 1919


Stella Thompson
Birth Date: 1 May 1919
Death Registration Month/Year: Apr 1989
Age at death (estimated): 69
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Volume: 7
Page: 850

Karen then as now you have 6 weeks to reg a birth so someone born 1st May would probably be reg in the 2nd quarter of the year i.e. April/May/June. Whereas someone born June may not be reg till the next quarter of July/Aug/Sept.

The only way to get a dob is to buy the certificate.
Did Stella's first husband your mother's father die or were they divorced?

Jennifer

sorry what do you mean more names

Karen,

The death I found might not be the one. The deaths haven't been transcribed yet on Ancestry.


Was there another thread on this?

Rose

i hope you dont mind but how on earth did you find all that info

A VERY BIG THANK YOU

Karen, what it means is that the children were registered with a father's name of Shaw and the mothers maiden name was Davison. There does appear to be a marriage between these 2 people.,

If you look at your own birth entry you will find it reg in father's name and then mother's maiden at the side

ooohhh erm so they were born davison adopted to shaw so therefore henry maureen and kathleen are just shaw not davison have i got that right now it is getting very interesting i cant thank you enough for all your help so far

this is a copy of the info I sent to Karen the other day

"Karen there is no easy way I'm afraid.

The first thing you need is the marriage certificate of Stella to H Henderson. This will give you her father's name and occupation and also Stella's age at marriage. Then with a bit of guesswork you could find her birth.

The mother's maiden name is always recorded on birth certs but was not included in the Index until after 1911.

If you search for a Stella Shaw born between 1900 and 1922 this is what you get with a mother's maiden name of Davison:

Births Jun 1919
Shaw Stella Davison Newcastle T 10b 19

then if you search on the 2 surnames of Shaw and Davison you get these:
Births Sep 1917
Shaw Doris Davison Newcastle T. 10b 35

Births Jun 1919
Shaw Stella Davison Newcastle T 10b 19

Births Sep 1921
Shaw Rondall Davison Newcastle T. 10b 3

Births Jun 1923
Shaw Clifford Davison Newcastle T. 10b 6

The marriage that comes up with those 2 names i

Marriages Sep 1915

Davison Sarah H to Shaw Newcastle T. 10b 17
Shaw Richard to Davison Newcastle T. 10b 17 "

I could find no Henry, Kathleen or Maureen Shaw

Davison is the mother's maiden name, that's why we think they were sisters.

Christine

sorry but where does the davison come in to it thank you both

Have just been a step behind you Rose all the time so haven't duplicated the findings.

Looks as if they were both born in Newcastle


Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Shaw Doris Davison Newcastle T. 10b 35

Births Jun 1919 (>99%
Shaw Stella Davison Newcastle T 10b 19

You really need Stella's marriage cert to be sure of her age.

Christine

ok thank you so much you have filled in a few blanks what would you suggest the best thing for me to do now get the certificates did you dind no more shaws kathleen maureen and henry i think they are the step family once again thank you for your time and effort my mum has not seen here family for many many years but i am hopeing that with me doing her and my dads tree that she might try to find the family.
kind regards
karen

Karen you really need the marriage cert of Stella
which I found for you the other day:

Herbert A Henderson
Spouse Surname:Stella Shaw
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1940
Registration district: Northumberland South
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 786

without that it is all speculation

Jennifer

or Karen this is Stella's 2nd marriage

James Greeves
Spouse Surname: Henderson Or Shaw
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1948
Registration district: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 372


and her 3rd

John W Thompson
Spouse Surname: Stella Greeves
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1972
Registration district: Northumberland South
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 757

i cant tell you haw glad i am is there adeath for stella do you know
thank you

Here are the Doris Shaws born then. Nothing for Somerset though.

Births Sep 1917
Shaw Doris Davison Newcastle T. 10b 35
Shaw Doris Woods Burnley 8e 276
Shaw Doris M Cooper Wolverhampton 6b 988

Births Dec 1917
Shaw Doris Hunt W. Derby 8b 662
Shaw Doris Smith Dewsbury 9b 713
Shaw Doris Burnard Chesterfield 7b 1091
Shaw Doris Collins Belper 7b 955

Rose

you really are good i know this is cheaky but any more karen i am getting very excited now

Doris' death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Doris Smoult
Name: Doris Smoult
Birth Date: 13 Aug 1917
Death Registration Month/Year: Oct 1997
Age at death (estimated): 80
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Register number: F67C
District and Subdistrict: 0531F
Entry number: 293

Rose

Possible death:

England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2005
about Stella Thompson
Name: Stella Thompson
Birth Date: 2 Dec 1912
Death Registration Month/Year: Feb 1996
Age at death (estimated): 83
Registration district: Northumberland Central
Inferred County: Northumberland
Register number: 26D
District and Subdistrict: 6773
Entry number: 178

but not seeing a birth that would fit.

Rose

Doris' marriage:

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
about James R Smoult
Name: James R Smoult
Spouse Surname: Shaw
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Registration district: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne
Registration county (inferred): Northumberland
Volume Number: 10b
Page Number: 206
Find Spouse: Doris Shaw

Rose

oh my god yes she dide i forgot about him