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11 Jul 2009 15:03 |
Henry Charles as his father could well be correct
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marriages Jun 1874 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BARNETT William Lambeth 1d 713 >>>BRIDGES Henry Charles Lambeth 1d 713 Chillingsworth Jane Lambeth 1d 713 >>>Quested Sarah Maria Lambeth 1d 713 Quested Sarh Maria Lambeth 1d 713
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11 Jul 2009 14:56 |
A marriage
Marriages Jun 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>BRIDGER Sarah Maria Lambeth 1d 520 Hall Helen Lambeth 1d 520 >>>Ing James Vernon Lambeth 1d 520 SLATER Henry Lambeth 1d 520
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11 Jul 2009 14:53 |
Possible 1901 if he was known as Henry rather than James in his younger years
Address 48 Wickham St Civil Parish Lambeth Rural District Town or Village or Hamlet Ecclesiastical Parish St Peter Vauxhall Parliamentary Borough or Division Kennington Division Lambeth County Borough, Municipal Borough or Urban District Lambeth Borough Administrative County London
Householder 1 Name Henry Bridger Relation to Head of Family S Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 25 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Barmel Washer ... Employment Status Where Born London Lambeth Language Infirmity
Householder 2 Name Charles Ing Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 21 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Glass Blower Employment Status Where Born London Lambeth Language Infirmity
Householder 3 Name George Ing Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 16 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Bottle Cleaner ... Employment Status Where Born London Lambeth Language Infirmity
Householder 4 Name James Ing Relation to Head of Family Son Condition as to Marriage Single Age Last Birthday 17 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Labourer General Employment Status Where Born London Lambeth Language Infirmity
Householder 5 Name James Ing Relation to Head of Family Head Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 61 Sex Male Profession or Occupation Tailor Employment Status Where Born Middlesex Uxbridge Language Infirmity
Householder 6 Name Sarah Ing Relation to Head of Family Wife Condition as to Marriage Married Age Last Birthday 59 Sex Female Profession or Occupation Employment Status Where Born London East ... Language Infirmity
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11 Jul 2009 14:47 |
A possible
Deaths Sep 1881 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bridges Henry James 34 Lambeth 1d 294
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11 Jul 2009 12:55 |
Hazel, not read all through this - supposed to be working - but if the father were deceased and died when the boy was young, it may well be the son confused his name. So dont discard the cert immediately. I had one with the wrong first name for dad but the right surname - he had used his step fathers first name. People didnt delve much into the past back then, deaths were frequent and you had to move on, it may well be dads name was never mentioned to the son as he grew up.
Oh, Ive bumped up the thread on Tips for New members for you to read through. Basic stuff but obviously could have saved your first cert costing double :)
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11 Jul 2009 12:32 |
Carole's initial post implies a 1902 marr -
Marriages Jun 1902 (>99%) >>Bales Nelly Lambeth 1d 631 >>Bridger James Henry Lambeth 1d 631 Severn William Charles Lambeth 1d 631 Smith Sarah Jane Lambeth 1d 631
There's only one Nelly Bridger living in Lambeth 1911, and Lambeth=rd25, so we can search for all folk living with Nelly Bridger with a census ref of rd25.
HOUSEHOLD BRIDGER JAMES HENRY M 1876 35 Lambeth London HOUSEHOLD BRIDGER NELLY F 1875 36 Lambeth London HOUSEHOLD BRIDGER JAMES HENRY M 1903 8 Lambeth London HOUSEHOLD BRIDGER WILLIAM THOMAS M 1906 5 Lambeth London
A couple of further searches show pob=Lambeth for the 3 guys, but not for Nelly
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11 Jul 2009 12:09 |
Hi Christine
No problems with the questions, really glad for all your help.
James Henry Bridger's occupation shown on the marriage cert is Labourer. Witnessess were Henry Bales (not her father as he was deceased so presume another relation) and Alice Bales - no Bridger's were witnessess.
The wrong mother and father names on the certificate already received are Henry Charles and Sarah Maria.
Hope this is OK
Many Thanks xx
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ChristineinPortugal
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11 Jul 2009 12:00 |
Sorry for all the questions but what was James Henry's occupation on his marriage cert?
I presume he gives Lambeth as his birth place in 1911. Were any of the witnesses from the Bridgers family?
Also the mothers name on the wrong cert please.
Have to go out now but will take a look later.
Christine
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Middy
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11 Jul 2009 11:38 |
Hi Heather - glad I posted this now, can't believe I can get the certificate cheaper - glad I have only ordered the one from them (and that was wrong!) - so grateful for any tips
In answer to the other questions, have only found James Henry Bridger on the 1911 Census, can't find anything else.
I have a copy of his marriage Certificate - he was married to Nelly Bales on May 4th 1902 in Lambeth. His dad Henry James Bridger and her dad Henry William Bales were both deceased at this point.
James Henry Bridger resided at 48 Wickham Street Nelly Bales (mother's name is Rebecca Bales nee Stevenson) resided at 3 Hunt Street.
Thanks xxx
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Sliwowski
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11 Jul 2009 11:35 |
Address to look for Birth, Marriage and Death records for free
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
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ChristineinPortugal
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11 Jul 2009 11:20 |
I'm having problems trying to identify one born in Lambeth.
What is the name of the mother on the cert you have to try and find that one and eliminate him.
Christine
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Heather
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11 Jul 2009 11:14 |
SORRY, but how much did you pay for that cert? You should be paying no more than £7 when you use a gro ref from GRO online.
EEK, just looked at that site you mention, St Caths!!! They are charging for searches of bmd??? You can do that free on freebmd.org AND they charge nearly £15 for a cert - DONT USE THEM AGAIN!!
Hazel, read the Tips for New Members - you are being conned by that site. All they are doing is ordering the cert from GRO and charging you extra for doing it!
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11 Jul 2009 11:11 |
Household Record 1881 British Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability James BRIDGES Head M Male 26 Newington, Surrey, England Greengrocer Emma BRIDGES Wife M Female 27 Foncet, Norfolk, England James BRIDGES Son Male 6 Lambeth, Surrey, England Scholar Emma BRIDGES Daur Female 3 Lambeth, Surrey, England Alfred BRIDGES Son Male 9 m Lambeth, Surrey, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 148 East St Census Place Lambeth, Surrey, England Family History Library Film 1341136 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 0596 / 7 Page Number 9
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ChristineinPortugal
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11 Jul 2009 11:04 |
Have you found him on any census with his parents?
Christine
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11 Jul 2009 11:01 |
This is the only James Bridger born in Lambeth 1872-1877
Births Sep 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BRIDGER James Henry Lambeth 1d 400
If this isn't the certificate you already have order it from here
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/
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11 Jul 2009 10:55 |
Number should read
AMJ 1876 Malling 2a 550
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Middy
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11 Jul 2009 10:52 |
Hi Christine
I got the certificate via St. Caths.com - when I tried to do another search and advised on the additional notes the full name of his father so not to get the original again - once the search came back I e-mailed to query the fathers name before we ordered and they said that they could not advise whether it was correct or not - didn't mention anything about a partial refund on the original one either.
James Henry was born in Lambeth - his dad's occupation on James Henry's marriage certificate seems to indicate Seaman (the end part is missing so cannot say for definiate but first three letters look like Sea)
Thanks Christine x
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11 Jul 2009 10:48 |
Is this him in 1891?
1891 England Census about James H Bridger Name: James H Bridger Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876 Relation: Son Father's Name: Henry Mother's Name: Charlotte Gender: Male Where born: East Peckham, Kent, England Civil parish: Frindsbury Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Town: Frindsbury County/Island: Kent Country: England Street Address:
Registration district: Strood Sub-registration district: Strood ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Henry Bridger 47 Charlotte Bridger 50 Emily Bridger 23 James H Bridger 15 William Wood 15 If so then I think this will be the birth reg.
Births Jun 1876 (>99% BRIDGER James Henry Malling 2a 55_
The full numbers are not given, they must be difficult to read. I've just checked the image on Ancestry and it looks as if it should be 550.
Christine
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11 Jul 2009 10:41 |
You can request a certificate stating the father's name and if it doesn't match they will refund part of the money.
Was an ocupation given for his father on the marriage cert?
Where was your James Henry born?
Christine
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Middy
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11 Jul 2009 10:33 |
Hi, just looking for some help with regards to Birth Certificates, I recently obtained what I thought was my Great Grandad's B/C, however his dad's name on the certificate was not the same - so wrong certificate, how can I tell before I order a certificate whether it is the right one.
The details we have are that his full name is James Henry Bridger, born 1875 July/August/September - his fathers full name is Henry James Bridger (died before 1902) - the certificate we got which is wrong shows the fathers name as Henry Charles Bridger which is incorrect.
Any ideas would be great
Thanks
James Henry Bridger
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