Many thanks for this tip, copy/pasted for future ref.
Chris
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Many thanks - definitely bookmarking this as a vital instruction book.
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Please don't automatically assume that Submitted Records are inaccurate.
Many are the result of years of meticulous research by the person concerned, who would be appalled and disgusted to have their work trashed in such a way.
Yes, of course there are those records that are wrong, but as with all research, try to corroborate with alternative information wherever you can.
I would be more inclined to believe Submitted records than Ancestry or Pedigree trees. These can be submitted by anyone and are no better or worse than the trees found on GR in terms of their accuracy. Worse than that, once submitted, they can not be removed or changed.
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Glad you are all finding this thread useful. Not my work though!
It has been 'saved'' from OC's original thread which was deleted. So I thought I would put the information back on as so many people found it useful in the past.
Such a shame when really good threads get deleted...and not always by the thread 'owner'.
Sometimes it pays to copy a thread and save it on to your own computer ...just in case.
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Dear Theresa
I followed your advice on this thead.
I eventually located the parents of my great-grandmother x7.
I felt overwhelmed when I saw their details.
I have now got back to about 1765 with my family history search.
Thank you for you thread.
Best wishes.
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Thanks Teresa, I will read this through when I have a bit more time....Im sure I will find this helpful as for the last year I havent been able to suss all the batch nos out. Kay
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Drilling down, and using the "view film" button again gives:
Title Parish registers for Gawsworth, 1557-1993 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) (Main Author)
Notes Microfilm of original records in the Cheshire Record Office, Chester, England. Cheshire Record Office no.: P193/4467/1-8, 13, P193/5583.
Note Location Film Baptisms, 1557-1706; marriages, 1557-1711; burials, 1557-1692 (baptisms missing years 1667-1673) Baptisms, 1706-1774; marriages, 1711-1754; burials, 1692-1775 Baptisms, burials, 1775-1812; Baptisms, 1813-1885; Marriages, 1754-1837. FHL BRITISH Film 1999985 Marriages, 1837-1958; Burials, 1813-1860. FHL BRITISH Film 2000007 Items 1 - 3 Burials, 1860-1993. FHL BRITISH Film 2147232 Item 4
Similarly, we also get:
Title Bishop's transcripts for Gawsworth, 1586-1868 Authors Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) (Main Author)
Notes Microfilm copy of original record in the Cheshire Record Office, Chester, England. Cheshire Record Office no.: EDB 92.
Note Location Film Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1586, [no date], [1590?], 1600, [1620?], 1623, 1630-1631, 1635-1641, 1662-1665, 1667-1669, 1671-1672, 1675-1679, 1681-1688, 1692-1718, 1720-1721, 1719-1720, 1718-1719, 1721-1731, 1729, 1731-1739, 1741-1751, [no date], [1752?], 1754-1766, [1767?], 1768-1791, baptisms, burials, 1792-1812, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1813-1836, baptisms, burials,1837-1839, 1841-1842, baptisms, 1851, 1867-1868, 1867, burials,1867-1868. FHL BRITISH Film 1655672 Item 2
So to view these, we can either check out the Cheshire Record Office or rent a film thru the LDS. From the blue bar, we can click on "home" and find an FHC in the centre column (for those poor souls who don't live in Wales).
Footnotes - One can enter the mother's name as Margaret - the synonym Peggy is in the IGI's dictionary. Incidentally, Gawsworth is not in the Cheshire Parish Register Project http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb/
NB Only a minority of films held by the LDS FHL have been extracted into the IGI
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Lets do the initial search Theresa describes:
Results for: James Trafford, Any Event, 1802 - 1812, Cheshire, England, British Isles Exact Spelling: Off
International Genealogical Index / British Isles - 3 Select records to download - (50 maximum) 1. James Trafford - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: About 1804 Of, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England 2. James Trafford - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Birth: About 1804 Of, Macclesfield, Cheshire, England 3. JAS. TRAFFORD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 21 JUN 1807 Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Clicking on Jas gives more details, including:
Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P009421 1557 - 1837 0924607 IT 1 Film 6906716 Film Sheet: 00
If we now click on the Source Call # (0924607 here), and drill down we get:
Title The registers of the parish church of Gawsworth in the county of Chester, 1557-1837 Stmnt.Resp. by Robert Dickinson Authors Dickinson, Robert (Main Author) Notes Includes index. Subjects England, Cheshire, Gawsworth - Church records Copies Call Number Location Availability 942.71/G1 V26d FHL BRITISH Large Q Book Available Format Manuscript (With Film) Language English Publication London : Ancient Monuments Society, 1955 Physical viii, 347 p. Subject Class 942.71/G1 V26
And clicking on the "view film" button in top right we see:
Title The registers of the parish church of Gawsworth in the county of Chester, 1557-1837 Authors Dickinson, Robert (Main Author) Note Location Film Also on microfilm. Salt Lake City : Filmed by the Genealogical Society of Utah, 1974. on 1 microfilm reel ; 35 mm. FHL BRITISH Film 924607 Item 1
This is evidently a transcription or extract of the original parish records, so where are those? Back on the IGI search screen, we can click on "Library" in the blue bar at top, then library catalog, and do a "place search" for "Gawsworth". Drilling down, we get:
Topic England, Cheshire, Gawsworth - Church records Titles Bishop's transcripts for Gawsworth, 1586-1868 Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) [Bishop's Transcripts were the church's back-up records] The manor of Gawsworth, Cheshire Richards, Raymond [A book, which includes abstracts from parish registers & other town records including churchwardens' and constables' accounts, poor law records, etc] Marriages at Gawsworth, 1557-1812 Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) [In Phillimore's index] Marriages, 1588-1812, Gawsworth, Cheshire, England Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) [Forms part of the Norman Collection compiled by Bertram William Tuff Norman] Parish chest material, 1778-1870 Gawsworth (Cheshire) [Churchwardens' accounts, 1833-1870 Constables' accounts, 1778-1836 from CRO] Parish of St. James, Gawsworth, County of Cheshire, U.K. (Macclesfield Hundred), burials, 1557-1997 Taylor, Betty [Non-circulating extract by NCFHS of Dickenson] Parish registers for Gawsworth, 1557-1993 Church of England. Parish Church of Gawsworth (Cheshire) [Click on this] The registers of the parish church of Gawsworth in the county of Chester, 1557-1837 Dickinson, Robert [The book extracted to p009421]
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Dear Theresa
At last a location for parish records!
Thank you very much for the information.
You have put so much work into this.
I have been really amazed at the generous help that most GR members give.
I will be looking for those elusive parish records for my ancestors who I cannot find some details on.
Thank you again.
Best wishes x
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If you don’t know what part of the UK your family came from: click on the IGI and just enter a surname,
Select the ‘Region’ then select ‘British Isles’ then select ‘Country’:
ENGLAND, SCOTLAND, IRELAND, WALES, CHANNEL ISLANDS or ISLE OF MAN.
Searching for SIBLINGS OF AN ANCESTOR If you know the Parents’ Names, enter the Father’s & Mother’s Christian and Surnames and search. Also try entering father’s Christian and Surname but only the Mother’s Christian name as some times the records do not have mother’s surname entered.
Don't forget that there are entries Worldwide on here too
N.B. The IGI records are by NO means a complete list of ALL records, so don't be disappointed if you don't find your ancestor on here
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