Genealogy Chat

Hello again Mike

I'm still chasing up the Wells family and wondered if you wouldn't mind checking out the buriel of an Ada Wells in 1911, think she could be connected to my Wells family.

Many thanks
Kathleen

Hi again Mike,

I`m still trying to figure out if there was 1 or 2 marriages for Adam Underwood (1728)

Have now noticed there are 2 William Underwoods one in each group of the children 1758 +1783

Was wondering if there is a death/burial for the one born c1758 Twyford/Thorpe Satchville please, which may or may not help in some way.

Thank you for your help

Sylvia

Hi Mike,

Sorry, I'm looking into my friends family and I had to get some more info.

Yes, that is them,

Harry Halford born c1863
Lucy Halford (nee Fisher) born c1875

There is a big gap between 2 of their children, Lucy born 1900 and William born 1908, so I think this is where a couple of other children might fit. In 1911 it says they have had 9 children, but 5 of them have died.

Many thanks for your help,

Vicky

Greeting’s Again. …Vicky.


MARRIAGE :~

St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.
Entry No.178, FEB 12, 1866, after Banns
JOHN FISHER, 21, Bachelor. Brick Maker, Of Wheat St,
Son. of ROBERT FISHER, BRICK MAKER.

ELIZA JONES, 22, Spinster. of Sanvey Gate,
Daughter. of HENRY JONES, BRICK MAKER
Wits: William Fisher, Charlotte Leader.

BURIAL :~

Welford Road Cemetery.

Plot No’. C. B. 539.

B 539 C Miller Sarah Ann 1856 Aug 17 53 Wellington Street Saint Mary 3572
B 539 C Adcock Eliza Ann 1874 Aug 28 41 Byron Street Saint Margaret 15970
B 539 C Adcock Henry 1880 Nov 10 59 Fleet Street Saint Margaret 21974
B 539 C Hubbard Albert J H 1899 Dec 16 5 Wks 8 North Bridge Place Leicester 43620
B 539 C Adcock Henry Percy 1900 Mar 26 11 Gravel Street Leicester 44105
B 539 C HALFORD HENRIETTA 1900 JUL 10 Aged.4 12 NORTH BDGE PLACE LEICESTER 44569 [BRIDGE]
B 539 F Chadwick Samuel Moore 1953 Jul 24 77 Central Nursing Home Leicester 72494

MIKE.

You are a gem, thank you Mike

As you may have guessed, i always make a note if a baptism is submitted, will print those out and add them to my paper trail.

Sylvia

Greeting’s Again. …Vicky.

In order that I can proceed ….
You forgot to state their ages. ……

The Henry / Harry & Lucy Halford you have found on the 1911 Census.


If I’m tracing the right ones……… On the 1901. Census
At No’. 12 North Bridge Place.

Lucy Halford Daughter. Mar. aged 26.
Harry Halford. Grand Son.2.
Lucy Halford Grand Dau 7 mths.
Are within the Household of John & Eliza FISHER.
Which I believe is the Maiden Name of Lucy

Lucy & Henry Married Sept Quarter. 1893. 7 a. 297. Leicester.

I have One definite Burial but await confirmation of the ages you have found. .....

MIKE.

Hi Mike,

Sorry for the delay,

I have a couple of names:
Lucy Halford
Harry or Henry Halford - They were both alive in 1911, so it narrows it down a bit.

I don't know if it gives you the parents info, but Lucy and Henry (sometimes called Harry) Halford had quite a few children who died between census. So could you look for children who were born and died between approx 1895 - 1911?

Thank you for your help,

Vicky X

Greeting’s Again. …Sylvia.

My list as of Transcribed events from the Parish Baptism Registers.
These were done by fellow members of
Leicester & Rutland Family History Society

Reads thus :~

Siblings of Adam & Mary née Bates.:~

1754.Ann. 3.RD. AUGUST.
1756. Munk. 20.th.October.
1758. William. 5.th.November.
1760. Mary. 12.th.August.
1762. Margaret. 28.th.November.
1765.ALICE.23.RD.MARCH.

Siblings of Adam & Mary née Robinson. :~

1767. Rebecca.18.th.October.
1769. Thomas. 4.TH.JANUARY.
1770. Joseph. 25.th.June.
1772. Adam.25.TH.DECEMBER.
1775. Elizabeth. 25.th.March.
1777. Frances. 19.th.January.
1780. Lyddy.28.th.May.
1783. William. 23.rd.February.
1785. John. 28.th.July.

Therefore Alice belongs to the 1st.Marriage going on Mary’s Burial 1766.
I have put any differences in details from yours in CAPS.

MIKE.

Thank you so much Mike,

I hadn`t thought of a second marriage and did know about that earlier marriage, but all the trees in all the places, have that as his fathers marriage. Oops maybe not????

Which meant Adam IF born 1742, was about 13 when he sired his first child, not impossible though.

Can you confirm these baptisms for me please, all Twyford/Thorpe Satchville

Adam with Mary Bates (IGI has Batts)
Adam (not found) this is the 1742 one ??
Ann ..1 Aug 1754 (IGI submitted)
Munk..24 Oct 1756
William ..5 Nov 1758
Mary..12 Aug 1760 (IGI submitted)
Margaret ..28 Nov 1762

Adam with Mary Robinson
Alice ..c1765 (no baptism found, but may not be theiirs)??
Rebekah..18 Oct 1867
Thomas..1 Jan 1769
Joseph..25 Jun 1770
Adam..6 Dec 1772 (my 3x great grandfather)
Elizabeth..26 Mar 1775
Frances.. 19 Jan 1777
Lyddy..28 May 1780
William..23 Feb 1783
John..24 July 1785

As you can see i have 10 children for the second? marriage, looks like i have 1 too many if there should be 9, another oops.

Many, many thanks for your help.

Sylvia

Greeting’s Again. ….. Sylvia.

Just using my resources to hand. …….

I did not spot a Baptism for Adam Underwood c 1742.

But can confirm the Marriage 1767. ….
But it was at the Parsh Church of TWYFORD :~

St: Andrew’s Parish Church of Twyford cum Thorpe Satchville.

Adam Underwood. :~ Mary Robinson.
12th. April. 1767.
Both of Thorpe Satchville.
By Banns.

Adam & Mary had 9 Children.

BUT……….

There was another Marriage before this one ………..
So was the above marriage Adam’s SECOND Marriage in fact ?

ANNO DOMINI MARRIAGES :~ 1754.
Adam Underwood. ~ Mary Bates.
25.th. April.
St: Andrew’s Parish Church. Twyford.
By Banns.

This Marriage of Adam & Mary produced 6 Children.:~

BURIAL :~
1766.
St: Andrew’s Parish Church Twyford.
Mary Underwood.
25th. November. NO age given. …..

Other Burials of note found :~

1813.
St: Andrew’s Parish Church.
Parish Burial Registration No’. 1.
Adam Underwood.
Abode. ..Thorpe Satchville.
19th. August.
AGED. 85.( Which makes birth c 1722. )

1886.
Parish Reg No’. 708.
Adam Underwood.
Abode. …Thorpe Satchville.
6th. November.
Aged. 70.

So going on the c age for the 1st Adam’s burial ….
Then that 1st Marriage was possible making his age 26
And then 39 for 1767.

MIKE.

Hi again Mike,

I`m hopeing you can help me with a baptism for Adam Underwood born abt 1742, please i am hopeing Thorpe Satchville, as he married there in 1767 and his children were all baptised there.
I am looking for his parents.

Thank you for any help

Sylvia

Hi Mike,

I would like some info on the following if possible...

William Henry Newby bc 1846, Leicester . I have him age 5, on the 1851 census with his grandparents John and Mary newby at Blaby. John is a school master.
I see there is a entry on Ancesry births for a William Henry Newby b 1846, but would like to know his parents ...

Many tks.
Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

Thanks Mike, that's great, it's helped me a lot especially seeing her parents in the same grave, added info. which I didn't have.

Appreciate all your help

Kathleen

Greeting’s Again. ……. Kathleen.

You were close then ? …….lol. :o )))

I was struggling with the Christian Name let a lone the Surname ….lol
I've not seen anyone before with a Christian name like that ....

There you Go……..

Welford Road.
Plot No’. U. O1. 351.

O1 351 F ATKINS THIRZA 1918 OCT 31 Aged.33 85 GROVE STREET LEICESTER 106049
O1 351 F Eyden Beatrice Margaret 1929 Apr 30 26 Devonshire Hosp. / 23 St. Saviours Road Buxton / Leicester 118434
O1 351 F Wells Clara 1937 May 15 72 C.G.H. / 23 St. Saviours Road Leicester 124501
[City General Hospital]
O1 351 F Wells Albert 1938 Jul 20 74 23 St. Saviours Road Leicester 125264

MIKE.

Ey up all. Still interested in Goadby, Phillips, Bodycote, Bradbury, Rowbotham and Billyard

Thanks

S

Hi Mike

I have to apologise to you for sending you on a wild goose chase when I asked you to check the buriel of a Thurza Wells in 1918 in Welford Road, I mistakenly gave you her maiden name not her married one which was Atkins, sorry, could you please look for her under this name.

Many thanks
Kathleen

Hi Mike

Thank you for looking for Thurza Wells, appreciate your help.

Regards
Kathleen

Greeting’s. ……. Vicky.

YES . ,,,,,,

FISHER:~

Stillbirths :~ 1856. ~ 1940. = . .....24.

A~ Z. …… 1856. ~ 1942. = . ......188.

HALFORD. :~

Stillbirths = 1865. ~ 1931.=....... 19.

A~Z. = 1856. ~ 1950. = .......... 175.

Sound A Like. ~

HAFFORD. 1865. ~ 1947.

Stillbirths = .....1.
A.~Z. =. .......19.


So now we need to narrow it down a bit…….
Have you
CHRISTIAN Names.
YEARS.

MIKE.

Hi Mike,

Could you have a look in the Welford Road indexes for the following names please?

Fisher
Halford

Thank you for your help,

Vicky X

Greeting’s again. ….. Kathleen.

I’m sorry but no Wells with a Christian name of THURZA. ...... 1918.
Found for Welford Road
I did check out other Wells buried in & around December 1918
but drew a blank I’m afraid……..

The name did not even appear on the G.R.O. site......

Sorry.

MIKE.