Genealogy Chat

hi mike thank you very very much
all the best lorraine

Greeting’s Again…….Sylvia.

Yes that list of the Siblings is my research findings
For some one wanting to know who Alice belonged to.

I’ve had another look at the Parish Marriage Registers for the 1754. .

Thorpe Satchville Parish. Church.

Read thus :~

Adam Underwood of the Parish of Gaddesby.
Mary Bates of this Parish.
Banns ……29th. April…1754.

Which I too believe to be Adams 1st Marriage
Followed by his 2nd. Marriage to Mary Robinson……1767.

Had another look at Adam Burials within Leicestershire.

I See that the Adam born 1772 Son of Adam & Mary Robinson
Goes on to marry an Elizabeth.
Died in Lowesby cum Cold Newton.

1836.
Parish Burial Reg. No’..94.
Adam Underwood.
Abode….Lowesby.
24th. June.
Aged. 63.

1833.
Reg. No’. 78

Adam Underwood.
Abode. …Lowesby.
30th. January.
Aged….19.
Notes in Margin....Son of Adam & Elizabeth

And his Wife Elizabeth. ….

1842.
Reg. No’. 105.
Elizabeth Underwood.
Abode. ….Lowesby.
15th. August.
Aged. 62.

MIKE

Greeting’s Again Lorraine.

We have coved this before. ……

Here is my reply on this Site dated 22 nd Feb. 2009.

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Greeting’s again. Lorraine.

Sorry but this what happens when several people are asking for the same
In formation on the same person.

I have rechecked my rough Records Office look up notes
( Yes I do keep them….Sad or what ? )

In reply to a post by Sharon….( 19th. Oct. 08. 12.31.pm.)
Re Sophia Everitt ~ Thomas Dennis Marriage and Birth of either
I posted my finding’s 24th.Oct.08…….Late evening.
From my rough record office notes dated 23.0ct.08.

I have checked out that page on this thread ( Page No’. 2. )
and it would appear that after I had reread my post I altered a date that was wrong. & I must have clicked the delete button.........
It was a simple adjustment so I did not re read it again plus it was late.
That’s why there is a deleted post on this page……..SORRY……

Anyway this is what I did find out for Sophia Everatt events in Hinckley :~

Fiche No’. D E 1135. / 18. 3 of 3 fiches.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI 1791.:~

St Mary’s Parish Church. Hinckley.

Thomas Dennis.~ Sophia Everatt.
BOTH of this Parish.

Married in this Church This Twenty-Ninth Day of January
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety One.
By Banns By Me :~ Robert Gallaway. Vicar.
Thomas signed by his signature
Sophia by her Mark = X
In the presence of :~
Thomas Wallis.
N. Smith. ( Parish Clark.)

It looks like some thing happened to Thomas
And we get this :~

Sophia’s second Marriage. ?

Fiche No’. D E 1135. / 16……. 5th. of 5 fiches.
St: Mary’s parish Church. Hinckley.
Page No’. 251.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1812.

John Humphries. Of the parish of Portsmouth in the County of Hampshire.

Sophia Dennis of this Parish.

Married in this Church This Eleventh Day of February
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twelve .
By Banns By Me :~ H. E. Holland. Curate.

Both signed the Registers by their Marks
John = X Sophia = +

In the presence of :~

Ann Drought. By her Mark = +
N. Smith. ( Parish Clark. )

Then this event ?

Fiche No’. D E 1135./ 10. 5th fiche of Five.
St: Mary’s Parish Church. Hinckley
Page No’. 243.
BAPTISMS 1825 :~

Entry No’. 1938.Dated 30th. August.
Sophia. Baseborn Daughter of Sophia Dennis.
Hinckley.
Frame Work Knitter.
N. Browne. Vicar.


Hope this helps some how although be it not very much.

MIKE.

Hi Mike

Sorry I forgot to mention where they died but yes you did read my thoughts correctly, you're spot on again.

Many thanks

Regards
Kathleen

No worries there Mike,

When you said the burial for Adam Underwood 1813 said his wife was Mary Bates, i thought there must be another Adam Underwood, Most of the trees say there is one born 1742 to Adam and Mary Underwood nee Bates, who married Mary Robinson 1767, but no one can find his baptism, which makes me wonder if there was one, but from what you have found for me they did not have a son called Adam, see below,

My list as of Transcribed events from the Parish Baptism Registers.
These were done by fellow members of
Leicester & Rutland Family History Society

Reads thus :~

Siblings of Adam & Mary née Bates.:~

1754.Ann. 3.RD. AUGUST.
1756. Munk. 20.th.October.
1758. William. 5.th.November.
1760. Mary. 12.th.August.
1762. Margaret. 28.th.November.
1765.ALICE.23.RD.MARCH.

Siblings of Adam & Mary née Robinson. :~

1767. Rebecca.18.th.October.
1769. Thomas. 4.TH.JANUARY.
1770. Joseph. 25.th.June.
1772. Adam.25.TH.DECEMBER. (my ancestor)
1775. Elizabeth. 25.th.March.
1777. Frances. 19.th.January.
1780. Lyddy.28.th.May.
1783. William. 23.rd.February.
1785. John. 28.th.July.

Therefore Alice belongs to the 1st.Marriage going on Mary’s Burial 1766.

What i am trying to figure out is, was there one Adam Underwood that married twice or is there another Adam Underwood that married Mary Robinson, who was not the son of Adam and Mary nee Bates.

Hope you understand that.

Thank you for your hard work

Sylvia

hi mike
would you please do me a look up of
sophia dennis who married a john humphries in hinkley leicestershire
and see if they have any children
thank you lorraine

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Eek !!...... indeed….:o/

To quote one of your fellow Countryman…….

” Houston we have a PROBLEM…. “

After I had found Adam’s Burial in 1813. which stated he was the Husband of Mary…….
I looked for a possible Marriage of an Adam Underwood to a Mary ?.
In Thorpe Satchville …and came up with Mary Bates 29th. April. 1754.
Which seem right…….So posted née Bates to help you to go back further…….
So…….
Since you did not think the Burial was yours. I have had a good old dig around
My Disks…….

I returned back to that Marriage then noticed that on the same Disk an Edward Underwood also Married in Thorpe Satchville the same day….But did not think to open the file……… But when I did
Edward Underwood ALSO had Married Mary Bates, on 29th. April……….Oh Eek !!!

Any way I then checked out the Marriages for Thorpe Satchville via another Disk….
”Phillimores early Leicester County Parish Marriages.”
Seems who ever transcribed those Marriages for the 26th of April on my 1st Disk had made a
“ Right Dogs Dinner” of it……..
Turns out Edward Underwood was in fact an Edward HARDING. Who married an Ann Reeve by Licence 30th JULY.

But this lead me on to find a marriage of Edward Underwood to Mary Robinson.

Further on in the second Disk I found it………

1764.:~ Thorpe Satchville Parish Church.
Edward Underwood ~ Mary Robinson…..Both of this Parish.
12th. April. By Banns.

So you have my Apology for miss leading you with duff information……
A lesson for us all here to double check everything……..

So I think you can take it that the Burial for Adam Underwood Aged. 85. in 1813
is the right one.

I found a Burial for Mary who died one year before Adam. : ~

St Andrew’s Parish Church Twyford cum Thorpe Satchville.
1812.

Mary Underwood.
Abode……… Thorpe Satchville.
23rd April.

No age given ( not unusual for this early date )
But in the Notes it states Wife of Adam Underwood.

But I feel I had better check the original Registers held at the Records Office
Now to make sure of all the above information….

I Apologise again…..

MIKE.

Hi Mike,

Can i be cheeky and ask if there is another burial for a Adam Underwood between 1785 and 1841 in Thorpe Satchville other than the 19 Aug 1813 one, with age if possible please,

Will understand if its too long a period to look at.

Thank you

Sylvia

Greeting’s Again. Kathleen……..

You forgot to say were these deaths occurred……..
Or if they were Man & Wife……SO……

Welford Road Cemetery.

Plot No’. U. O. 1084.:~

O 1084 C Pratt Richard 1856 Dec 21 Aged.30
Gas Street Saint Margaret 4546

O 1084 C Pratt Elizabeth 1857 Mar 15 Aged.63
Grove Street Saint Margaret 4829

O 1084 C Gray Maria Pratt 1857 Apr 23 3
7 Caroline Street Saint Margaret 4951

O 1084 C Pratt Richard George 1857 May 24 2wks
12 Gas Street Saint Margaret 5048

O 1084 C Pratt Abraham 1874 Jul 6 2wks
Gravel Street Saint Margaret 32251

And……

Plot No’. U. O. 767. :~

O 767 C Pratt Ellen 1856 Sep 30 15mths
Caroline Street Saint Margaret 4317

O 767 C Pratt William 1861 Feb 25
Aged.68 Durham Street All Saints 9489

O 767 C Crane Jonathan 1861 Apr 21
5mths Durham Street All Saints 9684

O 767 C Pratt Lydia 1868 Jun 16 Aged. 19
Mansfield Street Saint Margaret 20615

O 767 C Pratt Lydia 1868 Jul 23
6wks Olive Hill All Saints 20818


MIKE..............Hoping I've read your thoughts right ?

Hello Mike

Hope you're ok. I'm after your help again for a couple of burials, I'm looking for Elizabeth Pratt died 1st qtr.1857 and William Pratt died 1st qtr.1861, can you tell me who is buried with them please.

Many thanks
Kathleen

Hello Mike

Once again many thanks for the info re Sikes plus the extra re burial of a William from smallpox could you have a look sometime for a birth please? Now I have found you I'm not going to let you go!!!!

Regards
Jean

Hi. My great grandad THOMAS WILLIAM GAMBLE died on 6 October 1920. He was resident at Vernon Rd, Aylestone Park. I want to find out where he was buried. Can anyone help please?

Mike
Thank you very much for the info about the Gelsthorpes. A shame that there were no parent details, I just don't know how to go further back.

I believe that George Henry Gelsthorpe, born 1863, is the son of George Gelsthorpe and Clara nee Keightley, but it would be good to have confirmation.

Regards Sue

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Greeting’s Again. …Sue.

EYES DOWN !!!! …………………………..

ALL Saints Parish Church.
Loughborough.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1807.

Benjamin Sikes. Of this Parish. Bachelor.
Sarah ROSSELL. Of this Parish. Spinster.

Were married in this Church by Banns

This Fourteenth Day of December.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Seven.
By Me :~ Stephen Oldridge. Curate.

Both signed the Register has :~
Benjamin. by his Mark…..X
Sarah in a clear own signature.

In the Presence of :~

Joseph Rossell.
Joseph Webster….Parish Clark.

SECOND MARRIAGE :~ 1833.

Coleorton Parish Church.

Entry No’. 139.

Benjamin SYKES. of the Parish of Shepshed . WIDOWER..
Jane PLATT. Of this Parish. Spinster.

Were married in this Church by Banns
This Ninth day of December.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Three.
By Me :Frank Meriwether. Rector.

Benjamin signed the Register by his Mark again….X.
Also did Jane by her Mark …..X

In the Presence of John Hawkesworth.
Ann Platts…by her Mark…..X
James Bott. Parish Clark.

Early BAPTISMS Found :~

All Saints Loughborough.

1783.

Benjamin. Son of Nicolas and by Ann his Wife…….Bapt. …21st. April.

Even earlier Baptism :~

1745.

Nicolas Son of Nicolas Sikes…Bapt. ….1st January.

Interesting Burial :~

1783.
William Son of Nicolas & Ann Sikes Buried …SMALL POX.
The date was covered by a flipping great water mark….sorry.

MIKE.

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Greeting’s Again Jean.
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.

MARRIAGE.:~ 1825.

Entry No’. 725.

Thomas Gelsthorpe. Of this Parish. Bachelor.

PHEBE Swann. Of this Parish. Spinster.

Were married in this Church by Banns.
This Twenty third Day of October.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty five.

By Me :~ Thomas Barnaby. Vicar.

Both signed the Register by their Marks …..X times two.

In the Presence of :~
John Imms. ( Not 100% sure on this name )
Sarah Burton. ..by Mark…..X

So…No clues there then……

Better luck with the Baptisms

BAPTISMS :~

1830.
Entry No’. 1856…..1st. September.

Rhoda. Daughter of Thomas & Phebe Gelsthorpe..
Abode…….Bridge Street.
Occupation…….A BOATMAN.

N. Bannaman. Curate.

1833.
Entry No’. 48. 8th. December.
Elizabeth. Daughter of Thomas & Phebe Gelsthorpe.
Abode…..Bridge Street.
Occupation. ….A Boatman.

A. Imms. Curate.

1836.
Entry No’. 519. 19th. October.

Maria daughter of Thomas & Phebe Gelsthorpe.
Caroline Street.
A Boatman

Entry No’. 520. 19th. October.
Thomas Son of Thomas & Phebe Gelsthorpe.
Caroline Street.
A Boatman.

N. Barnaby. Imms

The above could be twins or a late baptism for one of them…..

But now we know that Thomas could be the Son of a BOATMAN.

So for the moment the jury’s still out on that one
Also still working on the Parents of George Henry Gelsthorpe b 1865.

MIKE.

Eek, thats put the cat among the pidgeons, here was i thinking Adam Underwood may have married twice the second time to Mary Robinson in 1767, seems i will have to rethink that part of my tree and find another Adam Underwood.

Thank you for your help Mike much appreciated.

Sylvia

Greeting’s Again…..Sylvia.

No Problem………

1813.
St Andrew’s TWYFORD cum Thorpe Satchville. Parish Church.

Twyford Parish Burial Register No’. 1.

Adam Underwood. Husband of Mary née Bates
Abode. ….Thorpe Satchville.
19th. August.

AGED……….85.

MIKE.

Hi again Mike,

Wondered if you could find a Adam Underwood`s burial in your disks, supposed to have died 19 Aug 1813 in Thorpe Sachville Leicestershire please.

I am hopeing it will tell me his age.

Thank you.

Sylvia

Greeting’s Again. ….Jean.

Just using the resources I have to hand. ………

ALL SAINT’S Parish Church. Loughborough.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1807.

BENJAMIN SILKES. ~ Sarah ROSSELL.
14th. December.
By Banns..

BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI :~ 1783.

Benjn. Son of Nicolas & Ann Silkes…Bapt….21st. April.

1745.
Nicolas. Son of Nicolas Silkes. …Bapt. 1st. January.

Second marriage for Benjamin ?

1833.
COLEORTON Parish Church……

Benjamin Sykes. ~ Jane PLATTS.
9th. December.
By Banns.

Which you all ready have the details of this marriage
one page back from this page


I need to check all of the other events out at the Records Office this week
to confirm it all.

MIKE.

Hello Mike

Good to see you back & here I am again looking for help with my Sykes/Sikes family
IGI has a marriage for Benjamine Sykes to Sarah Rossell 14 Dec 1807 All Saints Loughborough could you check the details for me as I think this may be his 1st marriage, also a birth for Benjamine about 1780-1790 Loughborough, census has different dates within that time frame.

Many Thanks

Jean