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sylvia

Something I saw on another site.

"wife of james william govey islington"

i want to know the name of the wife/wives of the above.



And that was it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No timeframe, or other information.

shakes head




but I can quite believe it!!



sylvia

I was helping someone on another site and to take them where they wanted to be, I foolishly spent £1 in credits on the 1911 site. I had credits left - and thought if I can help this person, who was struggling to find their ancestry - then it would be worth it. I sent the details via a personal message (didn't want the whole world requesting 1911 lookups) I explained the lookup cost £1 - hence my reason for pm'ing. You've guessed!!!!!!! I didn't even receive a reply.

Hi Viv


my mum was a whizz at horsemeat casseroles/stews during and just after the war. Long cooking meant tender meat!



sylvia

i saw that post
and thought back to trying it in france some years ago
bit too stringy for me,
but i do like them alive as ive ridden since the age of 6.
but it did make me chuckle,sorry sylvia

oh ,and a lot of the horse meat in france came from here

Now this made me mad today


part of a very long heading

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW PLEASE........

Allegedly he went to America because he was selling horse meat for human consumption (not allowed back in the 1940's)

Allegedly this made the newspapers back then.
DID THIS HAPPEN? IF SO WHEN PLEASE.



Two of us posted that sale and consumption of horse meat was not illegal in the UK up to at least the 1960s, and that he was therefore unlikely to have escaped to the US for that reason.


This was the response a little while ago



Thanks everyone for your input. I personally haven't a clue about horse meat.
If you care to notice I have use the word ALLEGEDLY many many times in my posting.
I am really not interested on whether it's legal or illigal to sell horse meat in the UK today or 100 years ago.
I have asked questions in my posting that I had hoped some people may be able to answer.
Many thanks to everyone who assisted.
I am still looking for answers
Susie






grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr



sylvia

Here Here !!!!!!!!!! i agree and get even more mader when they say i already have that info i want to know this , well why dont they say that in the firast place what they do have and what they would like to find out. just a very simple please or thankyou will do just some kind of acknowledgement Please

Thanks
see its so easy

Tracy

Can I just say...since taking an Ancestry sub out in January I have tried to do a few look ups for people to make up for those done for me in the last few years and /or come up with advice if I can ... in all cases I have been thanked, some briefly and some , which I especially appreciate, telling me how they have got on /are getting on with their search (always nice to hear the 'end' of a story lol) .

Heather who has posted below, gave me some invaluable help when I first started and I used it and other's tips on here to do as much research as I could myself, which is a lot of the fun of it lol...but I always feel able to ask for help if I am stuck and hope that others, newbies especially, feel the same.

I think nearly everyone here is aware that sometimes people's writing style can come across a bit brusque... but being succinct can actually give them more time to help!

GR it has to be said may own the site and provide hot matches and search , but in my experience it is the voluntary help from members that really makes the site.


Many thanks to all whose brains I have picked!

Rose x

There are many people on here, including me, who have stopped helping. There are days when I can regret that decision but they are few are far between as there are just too many people only too quick to pull the helpers to pieces.

Who do you think is going to tell our Newbies how to use the boards? GR have set down guidlines but like the proverbial horse, you can lead them to water but you can't make them drink.

Note & "thanks" was all I ever expected not chapter & verse.

brandyman


never heard of paraphrasing?


I use "oldtimers" instead of "due to their long standing and experience"

it means the same thing!


as a former editor, I know that such paraphrasing is perfectly acceptable, as long as the meaning of the original is not lost ... and I do not believe that it was.



however ..... I am duly admonished by you, and

it seems that my experience and help is not required by such as you .... so I assure you that I will keep away from any of your postings..




sylvia

as my old boss would say "the customer is always right" no matter how wrong he is it is up to us to steer him in the right direction gently without him knowing it but he is always the customer?
lets be friends one and all. who's for a cup of tea sun is shining.................?
my psychiatrist says i should count to ten?

Sylvia

Not wanting to misquote, you said

"I HAVE just been taken to task on a thread (by a Robert!! and others) for being "official" in saying GR T&Cs don't allow multiple posting of the same thread. Reference was made to the board police, and "oldtimers" who think it is their responsibility to moderate the boards"

It is so easy to use others comments out of context. The word "oldtimers" was not used. What was actually said:

"The point being made was that it is not for a select few who believe, due to their long standing and experience to tell others how they should conduct themselves on the forum"
"There nothing wrong though with providing helpful advice."
"Gotta be better than sending a new member scurrying for cover when they get something wrong"

As for the forum police, what was actually said in response to someone new who felt he got a roasting for double posting was:

"No need to apologise because you fell foul of the forum police"
It is customary not to post a thread in more than one board and if your new then threse things happen until you get the hang of it."

I do think however, that its questionable that someone can pull another member up for breaching the T & C's when this thread started of as being well off topic. Certainly was not a Tip but more of a moan. General Topics or Chat may have been the proper place.

As to the question of this thread. Everyones got there own views.
I personally think that a gracious, not over the top thank you should be sufficient.

"Thank you so much for your time, I am most grateful you have found....., Thanks again, much appreciated all sounds a bit OTT. But everyone to their own.

I do get concerned when others in putting their arguement say that it is the VOLUNTEERS that run this site. It gives the implication that those of us that do not have the time to give as much as some are viewed upon in a lesser light.
As someone commented on another thread, I always thought that it was Genes Reunited that run the site and that no matter how long someone has been a member all hold the same stature and membership rights.
However, it does not always come across that way in the forums.

I think Linda on 7th March 21:10 and Emma 8 March 12.22 probably got the balance right in expressing their views on this subject.

My post today of 14.43 !

"Robert" has replied to my pm !

Changed from AOL to TalkTalk and lost his tree in the process-all well now !

when i went to ireland i had agreed to luck for some ancestors for three different people...

one i got the full birth cert for .it was for a friend of a friend she sent me a lovely card with a cheque for seven pounds and said the lady was really greatfull... i still have the card..

the other two i got the little ones still had all the revalant info on emailed both and got no reply ... i had to pay for them only 4 euro each but there was 4 and the time it took to look threw the record books and if anyone has been to ireland you know you have to pay for this as well...

but on the other side i posted a request for help i put everything i new names and so forth and said i had this info so all i needed was some help on the information i didnt have and what did i recieve 17 messages all about the info i already had ,,,, if people want to help i think they should read the request,s for help properly......

Donna

p.s i,v also gone to a cemetry in belgium to take photo,s for young lady for her mum and didnt charge her for the pics ... she did send me a lovely email thanking me and to say the look on her mums face when she looked at the pictures was priceless,,,

Sue

Thank you!!


sylvia

Now I am guilty of not thanking people for their advice about using the Reply and Add buttons.

This thread has moved on so fast and I wasn't able to check for replies until now.

But thank you everyone for clarifying that the 'Reply' button is the one to use. I thought I was going mad.

I agree with all the comments about GR not providing enough basic info on how to use the site. I trawled through every possible piece of 'Help' they have put on here, to no avail. I guess they are depending on the wonderful GR Community to come to their rescue.

I've said this before ... it never ceases to amaze me how kind and helpful the majority of people are in this community.
Thanks again
Sue

AnnOGG

thank you for that reference!!

No it was not me, I never even posted on Annabel's thread.

I did start to post a message last night asking who she was referring to (that would have appeared before Claire's message), but decided not to proceed with it.


I HAVE just been taken to task on a thread (by a Robert!! and others) for being "official" in saying GR T&Cs don't allow multiple posting of the same thread. Reference was made to the board police, and "oldtimers" who think it is their responsibility to moderate the boards



Island ............ I don't think anyone is asking for chocolates and flowers .

................................. rather the acknowledgement that the information you've found is useful and welcomed.


I've seen so many people make absolutely no comment on the information provided, just post "Find John Q Smith".

Now that name may or may not have appeared in one of the pieces of information provided, but why not say something like "Thank you for the information. I'm curious about John Q Smith. Can you or anyone find him"


That's what I mean when I say I like acknowledgement, or thanks.



sylvia

I often think there are levels of researchers.

Some of us whip though the first few years and then struggle on for decades trying to find the elusive ancestor who has appeared from nowhere - others seemed to think not knowing their grans name was is a major brick wall but accept advice and realise its not.

There are those who learn and progress and want to do their own research and Ive been amazed in the last 6 years how brilliantly some newbies developed until they are far more knowledgeable than a lot of us, including me (which isnt difficult :)). One lady who came on as a really struggling newbie, has travelled the country searching her roots and in fact produced a booklet on it for all her family to enjoy.

Then there are those who never get further than a couple of generations because it is too much effort. I always remember that classic hot match I had - I rushed to contact the chap as my maternal line has a very unusual name and only a small number now remain. The bloke told me he got it all from a site on line - oh dear, my site. I then pointed out his direct ancestor, on whom he had based all this tree was in fact NOT the girl in my tree as it would mean she married as a baby. I found and gave him the marriage ref for HIS direct ancestor but was gobsmacked when he replied he "had better things to spend £7 on"

I should think those who dont bother to thank people are in that category because in truth, they arent really bothered about their ancestry. Its just a passing whim.

I can only help a little, but if I've tried and there hasn't been a response on the boards, I occasionally send a friendly pm to let them know that the info is there. 9 times out of 10 they are so grateful because they have been struggling to use the boards. If they don't reply, I give a metophorical 'shrug' remembering that it's their loss, and press on to someone else. No probs.