Genealogy Chat

Hi,

My Great grandmother was Agnes Marion Kitchen (b1898, Loughborough). Her parents were Henry Maples Kitchen (b1872, Boughton, Nottingham) and Selina (b1864, Plumtree, Nottingham).

I have Agnes’ birth cert which states MMN as Burchnall, but I can’t find any Selina with this name and for over 2 years I have been unable to find a marriage between Henry & Selina.

I always thought Agnes was an only child as nobody in my family knew of any siblings plus in 1901 Selina was in her late 30s with only one child.

I’ve been on the 1911 and was surprised to find they had another child called Frederick Henry Kitchen (b1901, Ashby de la Zouch). Agnes called her first born son Fred in 1921, so I think her brother may have died before this as my family knows nothing of him, although I haven’t been able to find out anything about him as yet.

I have his birth cert as well which states MMN as Birchenhall. Again I haven’t been able to find any Selina with this name.

The 1911 census says Henry and Selina have been married for 20 years.

Can anybody think of where I can go from here? It is driving me mad!!

Many thanks in advance for any advice/help on who Selina was and maybe what happened to her son Frederick.

Vicky X

Where were they all in 1911?

Could selina have been married before do you think?

Hi,

They were living in STANFORD UPON SOAR LOUGHBOROUGH in 1911. I think it's possible that Selina married before, but I can not find a marriage between a Selina and someone with a surname something like Birchnall!

Thanks

Vicky X

What a pain/

Just for ref, I know you have this, but for ref. the kitchen mob in 1891

Daniel Kitchen 66
Mary Ann Kitchen 57
John Kitchen 35
Amos Kitchen 26
Elizabeth Kitchen 25
Joseph Kitchen 22
Charlotte Kitchen 20
Henry Maples Kitchen 18
James Kitchen 16

Yes, she was a fair bit older than him wasnt she. But they are living in Leicestershire in 1901 though they are both from Notts, so its likely they met in Notts?

Thanks. I have to go now, but I'll check any replies out tomorrow.

Vicky X

Yep, Im off to bed now too. See you in the morning :)

I do think it’s most likely they met in Nottingham. This family is such a pain!

here is 1901
1901 England Census
about Henry Kitchen
Name: Henry Kitchen
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Selena
Gender: Male
Where born: Broughton, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Whitwick
Ecclesiastical parish: The Oaks
Town: Whitwick
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ashby De-la-Zouch
Sub registration district: Whitwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 18
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 11
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Kitchen 28
Selena Kitchen 37
Agnes Kitchen 2


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 2974; Folio: 104; Page: 2.

LOL, Sorry, but cant help thinking his name is like a catalogue from B and Q :)

Been typing all day so far, only just got back - no progress then? Ill ask the guys over on FTF in case they have a brain wave OK?

Different approach, maybe look for their deaths?

?? Possible birth for Selina

Births Sep 1867 (>99%

Burchell Selina Worksop 7b 33

Christine

Would she add years to her age though? Its a mystery and your find seems nearest.

I've just done a search on the 1911 for her and her birth year on there is 1867.

Christine

This is Selina Burchell in 1871, address is Plumtree.

1871 England Census
about Selina Burchell
Name: Selina Burchell
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Harworth, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Harworth
Town: Harworth
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England


Disability: View Image
Registration district: Worksop
Sub registration district: Carlton
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 63
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Burchell 45
Elizabeth Burchell 43
Julia Burchell 12
Selina Burchell 3

Christine

Have you checked the census image in 1901?. Is her age clear?. It could have been transcribed wrong

HI,

Thank you all. I've looked at the Selina Burchell in 1871 with grandparents. I can only find that Henry & Elizabeth Burchell had 2 other children:

William born 1847 in Rowley Nottingham (can't find him after 1851 in Yorkshire)
Harriott born 1850 in Clifton, Yorkshire. She married George Barker in 1868 in East Retford, Notts and died between 1871-1881. I can not find any evidence that she is the mother of Selina. I think I'll have to get the birth cert from 1867 to see.

Henry & Elizabeth Burchell are in Yorkshire in 1881. Can anybody see what hapened to their grandaughter Selina? I've looked for a Selina Barker just in case she took her stepfathers name.

Thank you again,

Vicky

i think clifton is in nottinghamshire
sally

Looking a possibility isnt it?

It does like this could be her.....although I have no idea where she then disappears to between 1871 and turning up married in Loughborough in 1901! It would be a big help if I could find a possible marriage, but I can't even find one for a Henry Kitchen and a Selina "Anything"!

I'll keep you posted if I find anything,

Thanks to everyone.

Vicky X