Genealogy Chat

Hi Gaille
Thank you for your thoughts, I shall try it, I did try it a while ago, but with new knowledge, might help me again.

Hi Mgnv
I shall have a look at site you suggested, many thanks.

Margaret
I shall get googling. crikey 1041, you would'nt think it would be possible, to go that far back.
I did look up Winstanley Hall, an eye opener, Hugh Holme a cousin of the Rev.
Had married the lord of the manor's daughter, and had inherited the hall, and changed his own name to Hugh Banks, Quite amazing.
Thank you very much for all your help.
I have renewed vigour, to learn, many thanks.
Wendy

But Sox, don't leave it there. Your ordinary Ag Lab did not become a Reverend back in the 1700s. They were often University graduates (Oxford or Cambridge), and "of money". They married wealthy women of notable families, and notable families have histories written about them.

Find the history of this Hall for a start. Also Crockford's Directory has records of C of E Vicars, and are very helpful. Google that. As a result of a gg grandfather (sadly of a cousin of mine on her husband's side) marrying a Vicar's daughter I was able to trace her family back to 1041 - yes, before William the Conqueror, in fact there is a record that one of her ancestors met him! I discovered Sirs and Baronets and scores of illegitimate children to boot.

So milk your vicars for everything you can!

Sadly, they left no money to be handed down, but it was still exciting.



Margaret

Thank you Margaret
How lovely to have two reverands in the family, what a lovely suprise.
Yes I will now have a google.
Very many thanks for your help, it really is much appreciated.
wendy

Baptism: 24 Feb 1779 St Thomas the Martyr, Up Holland, Lancashire, England
Cholmondley Holme - Son of Thomas Holme, Reverend
Abode: Upholland
Register: Baptisms 1767 - 1789, Page 32, Entry 16
Source: LDS Film 1657531

One of many Holme records at:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Upholland/stthomas/index.html

Wow! Lots of hits when you google the Rev! An important dude!

Hah! Mary Meyrick's mother was Jane Cholmondeley.
And Mary's brother was Rev. Owen L. Meyrick.

Cripes Anne
This is amazing,
I had often read the Rev Thomas Holme, but did'nt think I would ever find a connection.
My trouble is I live in lincs and not in lancs, so getting to a local source, is impossible at the moment. to search archives.
How can I thank you, its amazing.
You are so kind to have taken the time to do this, Iam so so gratefull.
I really am. many thanks
Now I can start on the rest. interesting with the hall, I presume must have worked there maybe.
I will have to google, see if I can find anything out.
Bless you, and again
wendy

If you google "Rev. Thomas Holme" you'll get this tree:

http://www.angelfire.com/planet/madjack/pafg176.htm

Which has this:

Rev Thomas Holme was born in 1740. He married Mary Meyrick in 1765.

Mary Meyrick [Parents] was born in 1744. She married Rev Thomas Holme in 1765.

Click on Mary's parents to get more.

(I'm confused as to why one of the children's christenings had mother's name Jane.)

according to this one her father was a Rev.

Cholmondely Pedigree



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Event(s):
Birth: 23 JAN 1779 Winstanley Hall, , Lancashire, England

Christening:
Death: 12 AUG 1793

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Rev Thomas Holme Family
Mother: Mary Meywrick Holme

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Cholmondely Holme Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1779 Winstanley Hall, , Lancashire, England

Christening:
Death: 12 AUG 1793

Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Thomas Holme Family
Mother: Mary Meyrick

Cholmondely Holme Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 1779 Winstanley Hall, , Lancashire, England

Christening:
Death: 12 AUG 1793

Burial:


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Messages:
Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband.


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Source Information:
Film Number: 170767
Page Number: 4770
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wow Margaret
Thats amazing, how did you do that, that took me ages to do that. and yes that is the family.
Seems a strange name. and Myreck and meyreck to, which I presume must be His mother Janes, maiden name.well one of the spelling.
Richard is my family line.
I.m not having much luck with the others either, I'm still relatively a newby, and still a lot to learn, re researching,
wendy

Are these the other children, all 13 of them?

HOLME, Jane Bir 1760 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Anne Bir 1761 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Hugh Bir 1762 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Mary Myreck Bir 1764 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Henrietta Dorothy Chr 1765 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Thomas Chr 1767 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Meyrick Chr 1768 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Diana Frances Chr 1774 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Harriet Chr 1776 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Cholmondley Chr 1779 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Richard Chr 1788 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo:
HOLME, Ellen Chr 1794 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME
Mo: Jane
HOLME, Samuel Chr 1795 Engl Lanc Upholl
Fa: Thomas HOLME

Is this him on BVRI?

HOLME, Cholmondley Christening
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 24 Feb 1779 Recorded in: Upholland, Lancashire, England
Father: Thomas HOLME
Source: FHL Film 1469059 Dates: 1735 - 1815

Pronounced Chumley....like Mr.Cholmondley-Warner in the old Harry Enfield sketches!!

Natasha
Thank you for the info, I had not thought of googling, Its another way of spelling,
many thanks

Pam
Yes, The variants o village names are never, what they seem, a village nearby, is spelt Aslackby, but pronounced Azalby,
(whoever invented the english language)
Wendy

Hi Sox

There's a Cholmondeley Castle which is also spelled Cholmondley.

Otheriwse it looks more like a surname than a first name, but that's based on a google search so someone might know something else

Sorry couldn't be of more use

Natasha :D

I have been trying to find more information about a relation.

CHOLMONDLEY HOLME born 1779, WIGAN

She was from a family of 13, I have tried all sorts to find out more about her/him. but to no avail.

Now I wonder if anyone has any ideas, for another spelling of this name, well any help really.
sox1