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Is Nelly short for any other name I have this birth Nelly Snaith born between
1898- and 1902 the surname could have Garnham thank you

Margaret

it is a name in its own right but is often the name used for Ellen and sometimes known as nell or nellie
The surname you quote is quite distinctive so a blanket search on FreeBMD on the surname and year span should find her

Is the surname Snaith? Or is it Garnham?

my maternal grandmother weas Nelly and that is on her birth certificate

thank you for answers I am not sure about the surname as Robert Snaith married Cecila Garnham June 1901 bothe second marriages and looking at the 1911 census yesterday I see there is a Nelly Snaith down as a daughter but it says she is 12 so her her surname could have been Garnham thank you
I have searched throught the years on Ancestry but I can't find her
Margaret

so we know the area we are looking at here's the marriage
Marriages Jun 1901

Garnham Cecilia Matilda Bethnal Green 1c 367

SNAITH Robert John Bethnal G 1c 367

so have you found Cecilia on the 1901 census

how old was cecilia when she married in 1901

Thers this one but she doesnt have a a nelly with her and is maybe a bit older to be having late babies
Name: Cecilia Garnham
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham, London, England

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:15 Felix Street

Occupation:Shoe Server ??(difficult to decipher)

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members: Name Age
Cecilia Garnham 43
Cecelia Garnham 13
Alfred Garnham 9

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 283; Folio: 115; Page: 17

I see the marriage is in Bethnal Green. There is a Mary Ann E (poss ellen or Eleanor) Snaith for Bethnal Green Dec qtr 1898 and an Ellen Snaith for Hackney (not too far way), same quarter.
There are other possibles, but these two seem favourites, based on the info you have given.

and poss Robert but no Nelly living with him
1901 census
Name: Robert J Snaith
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Newcastle On Tyne

Civil Parish: Bethnal Green
Ecclesiastical parish: St Jude
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:33 Holybush Gardens

Occupation:Shoe Rep>?? Boot trade

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bethnal Green
Sub registration district: Bethnal Green North
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 159
Household Members: Name Age
Robert J Snaith 40
Annie Snaith 11
Kate Snaith 6


Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 285; Folio: 94; Page: 28.

Hi Rob yes I suppose that it could possibly be her but she does not seem to be on the 1901 census but Shirley that is her on the 1901 census so I do not really know the answer I know she is not with Robert Snaith in 1901 census he was a widower like her a widow thank you

Margaret

this may be Nelly being looked after as she was so young and her dad was a widower on the 1901

Name: Ellen Snaith
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Bethnal Green, London, England

Civil Parish: Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Chirstchurch Shoreditch
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:62 Baring street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub registration district: Hoxton Old Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 343
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah A Bennett 58 occ charwoman
Alice A Bennett 28
Florence K Bennett 26
William E Bennett 19
Ellen Snaith 2




Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 275; Folio: 184; Page: 53.

My mums elder sister was reg Ellen but known as Nell and Nelly

Is there any new information about her on 1911 (tooooo expensive to look it up ourselves, sorry!).

so just fishing for the other children this looks like Kate!!

Births Mar 1894

Snaith Annie Catherine Bethnal G. 1c 255

and poss Annie

Births Dec 1888

SNAITH Annie Margaret Shoreditch 1c 67

and poss Ellen

Births Dec 1898

Snaith Ellen Hackney 1b 523

this looks like the death of Roberts wife

Deaths Mar 1900

Snaith Anna Margaret 38 Bethnal G. 1c 132

Shirley and all the answeres I have had I think maybe you are right and she died just after having the baby thank you so much
Rob that is how I found Nelly on the 1911 census age 12 and that is how I know that Robert remarried a Cecila Garnham
Margaret

Margaret
No, I meant any other info. Maybe her (Nellie's) place of birth might narrow down her birth reg, and also if the mother died shortly after birth the area could well help confirm and tie everything together.

As they seemed to call the children by other than the reg name this may be another poss,
Births Dec 1898
Snaith Mary Ann E Bethnal Green 1c 157

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I have been thinking and the girl named Kate went on to marry and she had a daughter name Katherine Ellen she is still alive so perhaps she called her after Nelly (Ellen)

Margaret