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Jac

Jac Report 27 Nov 2008 22:17

Oh you little beauties you!!!! Makes tons of sense - I just wished that I could have found it George. I thought I had explored every blooming King from here to eternity!

I cant tell you how grateful I am.


Jac XX

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Nov 2008 20:21

The one that George mentioned is on the collectionscanada site. Is with Mrs. Birt's party and says the destination is Knowlton, Quebec. He should be on the 1911 census. Off to look again.

George

George Report 27 Nov 2008 19:54

a John King, birth year given as 1892 sailed in 1906 with Mrs Birts Homes, next of kin address-236 (256) Sherwood St., Nottingham

Birth years were often wrong so even though it says 1892 it could still be 1894)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tweetybirdgenealogy/

(I found him by searching using keywords of King and Nottingham)

Which makes sense as Mrs Birt mostly placed children in Quebec counties.

Dr Barnardo's now hold the records for Mrs Birts Homes, so your best bet is to contact them which as much as information and see if they can assist,

There is also a Lily King sailing in 1911 with the same organisation which could possibly be your girl, no age given on the immigration record.

George

Jac

Jac Report 27 Nov 2008 19:06

Thanks all:


George - John King was discharged in 1903 November 26th and Lily was discharged in March 1902.

there were two other siblings in the home with them, Elizabeth and Sarah Ann - these were discharged in 1902 and 1903 respectively.

Interestingly enough, in 1910 two even younger siblings were placed in the same home when their mum was in the Workhouse Infirmary.

I dont think I have posted Lily's information before (well, not as regards being a Home Child). One kind member did find the wedding date for me, and also an early border crossing but the border crossing that intrigues me is the one which says she was visiting her brother John King, in Lennoxville.

Crikey, it's driving me to drink is all this. Coupled with the fact that family rumour has it that young Sarah Ann became a Nun!!! now how the devil can I find out about her??

thanks for all your efforts folks.


Jac XX

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Nov 2008 18:56

Can't find a Lilian/Lillian or Ada King or Quirk on the 1911 census.

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 27 Nov 2008 18:46

Hi; just taking a quick peek here. I'll be back later tonight.

I've searched for my ancestors on the 1911 census and one particular family's surname was so misspelled that a GR member finally had to help me find the family. Another family had these spellings: Gracei, Hariett, Lousie, Sofia, Charllotte, Maud (should be Maude), and Alfred? So, even common names could be very wrong.

Have you posted Lillian's information before? I ask because it seems familiar. If you have asked before, there's still a chance of finding her now, as records are constantly added to the internet.

I'll check back here later.

George

George Report 27 Nov 2008 18:09

What date were the children discharged from the original home?

George

Jac

Jac Report 27 Nov 2008 16:53

Hi Margaret - I've searched the Home Children lists and might have found a "suitable" John King, but as there is so little information about the children it could be the wrong one.

My John was born in Nottingham in 1893 and in 1901 was in a childrens home, along with his sister Lily (actually born Ada Lilian in 1896)

I have Lillian's marriage to Joseph Quirk - found the civil cert. on Ancestry and me thinks she might have told a little porkie about her age!

On a later border crossing I found for her it states that she first arrived in Canada in 1908 on the Empress of Britain - hence my thoughts on her being a Home Child (as her dad was dead and her mum was still producing other children in Nottingham at that time)

I cannot work out where the children went from the childrens home where they lived in 1901, although I have their dates of discharge (seen the actual record) but it did not state where they were sent - I suspect other homes in the area.

I also know from my research that the Guardians in Nottingham did send children to Canada (as I have seen the annotations in the records) but nothing in my crowds notes.

I'll try mgnv's suggestion of the 1911 census, although I think I did try this and got in a bit of knot - lol Third try lucky eh?

Anyway, any help you can give me would be much appreciated, and sorry the names are so common! ))))


Jac XX

mgnv

mgnv Report 27 Nov 2008 13:57

One can search the 1911 census at:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/index.html

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Nov 2008 13:46

Yikes! It had to be a common name Like John King. (Only John Smith would be worse)
Can you give an idea of birth year, when they came to Canada or the name of Lillian's husband?
I wondered if John might have signed up for WW1. The attestation papers are on the same collctionscanada site that I posted for home children. Again, though, a ton of John Kings!

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 27 Nov 2008 13:23

There's a list of "Home Children" on this site:

http://search-recherche.collectionscanada.ca/archives/search.jsp?Language=eng

There's a load of John Kings, no Lillian King though. (I presume that's her maiden name?)

Jac

Jac Report 27 Nov 2008 07:45

Morning ladies! only just seen this and i do appreciate your help.

The chap I'm interested in is:-

John King, Spring Road, Lennoxville, Quebec.
this was in 1921

His sister also is of interest to me - she being Lillian Quirk and her address in 1920 was

223 Gloucester Street, Ottowa.

I think both these people might well have been Home Children.

Thanks in anticipation of your help and/or suggestions.


Jac XX

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 26 Nov 2008 22:32

Margaret, it's snowing? :( I SO miss Canada! (Easy to say, since I don't have to shovel snow, eh?)

We bask from May-ish to October-ish. It's raining right now, which is ok, because we've had water restrictions for several months. We're keeping our fingers crossed that we get a lot of rain this season or we'll have to continue letting our gardens die. :(

Enjoy your snow. Think of me, will you? ;)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 26 Nov 2008 22:07

If you'd like to post a name, Jac, we might be able to help. Unlike Lisa, I'm still in Ontario. She's basking in sunny California and I'm in the snow.
Hi Lisa!

Lisa J in California

Lisa J in California Report 26 Nov 2008 21:02

Jac: If he was living in Ontario, I can try to help (I was born in Ontario). I cannot promise anything, since it would be a "recent" record, but it can't hurt to look.

Jac

Jac Report 26 Nov 2008 19:40

Thanks Belle - I think I have just about exhausted all the Canadian information that is on-line. short of employing a researcher I dont know how much further I can go at present - I'm obviously awaiting further census info (like I am in the UK).

I'll try again though with your first idea - many thanks.


Jac XX

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 26 Nov 2008 18:40

Another thing to try is to 'google' the place he lived in and look for a local/family history society for that area. I did this for Hamilton Ontario and found it very helpful and also was able to e-mail them.

RutlandBelle

RutlandBelle Report 26 Nov 2008 18:37

Try this site, all sorts of useful information:

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/index-e.html

Jac

Jac Report 26 Nov 2008 18:25

Through Ancestry I have found a border crossing showing my great aunt returning from a visit to her brother in Canada in 1921. I have his address (well, not the number of the road, but the road, the town, the province).

Anyone know how I can find out how long he lived at this address or any other info. about him? I've tried all the usual Ancestry searches and found zilch!

I'm chuffed to mint-balls mind, as I didnt even realise that my great uncle was living in Canada at that time.

Any ideas gratefully received.


Jac XX