Genealogy Chat

Hi Sue,

Thanks for that. I have been thinking today and I will investigate both possibilities at the same time.

I am going to contact a friend who lives in the area and ask what resources she can access.

Sue

hi hope this helps,taken from wickepedia.
TO AGIST IS,IN ENGLISH LAW, TO TAKE CATTLE TO GRAZE, FOR A REMUNERATION.
AGISTMENT IN THE FIRST INSTANCE, REFFERED MORE PARTICULARILLY TO THE PROCEEDS OF PASTURAGE IN THE KINGS FORESTRY.
i wonder if your local forestry commision could help.
sue.

This is her on the 1891 census and there are no employment details against her unless I have missed something.

Sue

1891 England Census
about Sarah Frost
Name: Sarah Frost
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End New Town

Civil Parish: Liberty of Norton Folgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Spitalfields St Marys
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England



Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Edward Frost 5
Mabel Frost 9
Marian E Frost 15
Sarah Frost 39
Sarah Frost 12
William Frost 37
William Frost 7
Harriet Stray 48



Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 275; Folio 70; Page 5; GSU roll: 6095385.

Hi Sue,

The faint writing after occupation looks to me as "buys to sell"..maybe first word is Agent? Above is "Own" Maybe she was her own agent - self employed?

1891 census sarah frost is a stationer "In her own account" So, she was self-employed at that time.

lol

she is a legend too :-)) (don't tell her though).

x

I think the legend known as O.C. has a look on here occasionally, even though she no longer posts.:)

Heather please thank OC and Jill for me :-))

Janet, I hope it isn't someone I know...lol, thanks for the email addy.

Sue

If you need to contact the local archives their e-mail is
[email protected]
I'm waiting for a response from them at the mo. Wish they'd get their finger out! (5 days and counting!)

Don't tell them I said this but the woman who runs the archives is rather aloof. I think she's a librarian who doesn't like people and you get the feeling that she is only allowing you to look at her archives because she has to!

It was O.C. and Jill who suggested it. :)

Thank you Heather,

I'll try this route first as my Grandma was also a seamstress and she must have met the alleged father somewhere!

No doubt I'll be back for further help from everyone.

Thanks again

Sue

Hi guys, just reporting back from FTF's efforts.
O.C. and Jill came up with the samish possible occupation:


"Does it say Agular, with "fur" written over the top? If so, she maybe meant Aiguiller, which was some kind of needlewoman in either the fur trade, or in the making of aiguilles for unforms. given the daughter is a fancy textile embroidress, this might just fit!

There's something very faint written after it and I wonder if it is "great coats"."

Now bearing in mind the daughters occupations .................

Thanks Christine. I'll try emailing a friend who works in a library close to the area.

Sue

You could ask at the relevant council offices for the area.
Maybe some old 'rights' are still active today?

Christine

Hi Kath,

When GB suggested that I googled for info in that area. Obviously Walthamstow is near to Epping Forest and the land around Whipps Cross, where cattle are still free to roam, as far as I know.

I have no idea where I would find further info if that is the occupation. I spent a quick 40 minutes looking for online records to no avail.

It's bloomin' frustrating.

Sue x

Could it be Agister. From old occupations site:-

Agister - Official of Royal Forests. In the New Forest, In charge of the ponies.

There is a forest near Walthamstow where they were living.

UPDATE - sorry Glitter Baby, just realised you said this ages ago!!

Kath. x

Yes Margaret he was then on his death cert he was a porter.

Sue

Wasn't William a salesman on the 1891 census?

No clue here either :-((

She was widowed in Feb 1892, husband was only a manual worker so have no clue where her money came from.

1891 England Census
about Sarah Frost
Name: Sarah Frost
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Female
Where born: Mile End New Town

Civil Parish: Liberty of Norton Folgate
Ecclesiastical parish: Spitalfields St Marys
Town: London
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:


Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub registration district: Spitalfields
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Edward Frost 5
Mabel Frost 9
Marian E Frost 15
Sarah Frost 39
Sarah Frost 12
William Frost 37
William Frost 7


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 275; Folio 70; Page 5; GSU roll: 6095385.

Sue

I've looked too! strange one that!

have you found her on the 1891?
any clue there?
I couldn't find Albert OR Sarah in 1891!

Christine

Heather I don't mind who you ask :-)))

I would be grateful for any help please.

Sue