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Greeting's again. .... Dewdrop.

Closest match for now :~
BAPTISM.
St: Margaret's Parish Church Leicester.

Reg No'. 425 24D65 B7 18-May 1855
JOHN HOWKINS
Parents :~ JOHN & SOPHIA

I need to look at the original registers for address etc.
to be 100% sure.

BUT.... as some toe rag stole my car Thursday evening and TRASHED it !!!! ..........grrrr :o(((

So....I'm with out transport for now ....

MIKE.

hi mike

sorry to ask again can you find john t howkins parents for me plz he born abt 1856

many thanks

Thanks Mike

Seasonal Greeting’s. ………. Dewdrop.

There you go :~

1881. Census returns RG 11. / 3179. / 104. / Page. 28.
Leicester.
All Saints Parish.
Civil Parish
Black Friars.

No’. 14. Jarvis Street.

John T Howkins. Head / Mar. 24. Shoe Finisher.
Mary A. Wife. 24. Dress Maker.
Joseph W. Son.5. Scholar.
Arthur J.H. Son. 4. Ditto.
John T. Son. 1.

ALL Born within the City of Leicester.

1891. Census returns GR 12. / 2540. / 74./ Page. 16.
Leicester.
All Saints Parish.

No’. 14. St Peter’s Lane.

John Thomas. Howkins. Head. Mar. 34. Shoe Finisher.
Mary Ann. Wife. 34.
Joseph W. Son. 15. Book Keeper.
Arthur John. Son. 14. Pawn Broker’s Ass.
John Thomas. Son. 11. Scholar.
Ernest Richard. Son. 9. Ditto.
Harry Herbert. Son. 5. Ditto.

Again All Born within the City of Leicester.

So…Parents = John Thomas Howkins ~ Mary Ann

MIKE. xx

merry christmas all

hi mike
merry christmas

would like info on howkins family
birth lookup of

arthur john henry b about 1877 blackfiars ??leicester
john thomas b 1879
ernest richard bt 1881
harry herbert b abt 1885

parents plz

many thanks

Hi Mike

Thanks for that, I'll give it a try.

Tracey x

Greeting's again. ......Tracey.

Have you posted your details on
" Who are you looking for in Derbyshire "
Thread by Derek ....
On this Tips Board

Worth a try ?

MIKE.

Hi Mike

Thank you for looking for John Sutton for me. I had seen the marriage, its the birth I'm stuck on. I think its very confusing abut Oakthorpe and Donisthorpe. I'll have to see if anybody is going to look at Derbyshire records office which i in Matlock, bit too far to go at the moment.

Merry Christmas to you.

Tracey x

Thank you so much Mike, that is a great help, i think you are right the second one looks more promising

Sylvia

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Re details of the two Marriages of a William Underwood. 1820. & 1822.

St: Mary the Virgin & St: John the Baptist parish Church.
ROTHLEY.

Fiche No’ 966. / 12. 1st. of 2 fiches.

Parish Registers read thus :~

Page. No’ 32.
Entry No’.96.
William Underwood. Of the Parish of
The South End of Mountsorrel.

Elizabeth MARVIN. Of the same Parish.

Married in this Church
This Twenty first Day of October.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty.
By Banns By Me :~ Jos. Norris. Officiating Minster.

William signed register by his Mark = +
Elizabeth by her Mark = X

In the Presence of :~
William Johnson. By his Mark = +
Isaac Preston. Parish Clark.

But this next one looks more promising ? :~

St: Mary de Castro Parish Church.
Leicester.

Fiche No’. D E 1683./ 11. 3rd of 5 fiches.

Register reads thus :~
Page. 167.
Entry No’. 500.

William Underwood. of the Parish of LOWESBY
In this County of Leicestershire.

Elizabeth KEY. Of this Parish.

Married in this Church
This Fourteenth day of October.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty-Two.

By Banns by Me :~ George Mitchell. Vicar.

William signed by his Mark = X
Elizabeth in her own signature.

In the Presence of :~
Thomas Stacey.
Ann Carter. By her Mark = X

Lowesby is only Three Parishes away from Thorpe Satchville.

BAPTISMS :~

St: Andrew’s Parish Church..
Twyford cum Thorpe Satchville.

Fiche No’. D E 771. / 5.

Registers read thus :~

BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI 1798. :~

WILLIAM. Son of Adam & Elizabeth Underwood…..Bapt. April 14th.

Plus maybe an older Brother :~

BAPTISMS ANNO DOMINI :~1796.

James. Son of Adam & Elizabeth Underwood. …Bapt. ..August. 20th.

BAPTISM :~
:
St: Catherine Parish Church.
Houghton – on – the – Hill.

Fiches No’. D E 2555. / 5.

Page No’. 13.
Entry No’. 100.
3rd. December.1822.
GEORGE. Son of William & Elizabeth Underwood.
Houghton – on – the – Hill.
Labourer.

J. C. Coleman. Rector.

Hope this is of help to you ?

MIKE.

Hello Mike
Thank you so much for your update, now………..

I reckon Frances Sanby was born c1766 going by her death records. I have found the births of John (1803) and Joseph (1807) in Barrowden form the IGI records.

I have guessed Robert Sanby’s birth at 1760, if you remember he is Samuel’s father and Frances’ brother. Samuel had a brother James who was born 1792 in Barrowden.

I can find no marriage for Robert and Frances (unknown) on the IGI records. A kind member on this site looked at the Spalding, Lincolnshire registers for me but nothing came up.

So I would be really grateful if you could try and look for Robert and Frances’ births and Roberts’s marriage (hopefully) in Barrowden. Should any other Sanbys crop up I will be thrilled!!!!!

MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY PEACEFUL NEW YEAR to everyone.

Look forward to continuing this in 2009!

Caroline xx

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Re MARRIAGE :~

St: Catherine’s Parish Church.
Burbage.
Fiche No’ D E 3367. / 13.

Registers read thus :~

ANNO DOMINI BANNS 1804. :~

Page. 17.
Entry No’ 64.

John Sutton. ~ Elizabeth PEGG.
BOTH of this Parish.
Banns published. 3rd. June 10th. June. & 17th. June

By Jerome Dyke. Rector.

MARRIAGE REGISTER. ANNO DOMINI 1804. :~

Page 17.
Entry No’ 64.

John Sutton of this Parish.
Elizabeth Pegg. Of the same Parish

Married in this Church this First Day of July
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Four.
By Banns by Me :~ Jerome Dyke. Rector.

In the Presence of :~
Jeremiah Dawson. Parish Clark.

MIKE.

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Just an up date……..

MARRIAGE
St. Peter’s Parish Church.
Barrowden. Rutland.

Fiche No' DE 2021. / 3.
Page 40.
Entry No’ 161.

Reads thus :~

Daniel Sewell. Of this Parish.
Frances SANBEE of the said same Parish.
Married in this Church

This Fifteenth Day of October.
In the year of our LORD
One Thousand Seven Hundred and Ninety Seven.
By Banns by me :~ Greg Bateman. Curate.

Daniel signed by own signature.

Frances SANBY (spelling corrected by Parish Clark )
By her Mark = X

In the Presence of :~
Wm Hickman.
Jno Mark.
Tho’s Johnson. Parish Clark.

I’ll need to think about what years I have to trawl the Registers
for Frances’s Baptism in Barrowden ?

Having another look at the Will ( Yes I still have it )

John Sewell came from Laxton Northamptonshire
Joseph Sewell came from Quoating Lincolnshire ….
So they might not be on the Baptism registers ……

This due to to the trawl will have to be in the new year now.....Sorry.

MIKE. xx

Thank you so much Mike - you're a star as usual!

Will look forward to any other info you may have.

Caroline xx

Greeting’s again. ……. Frazzled……

I’ve now updated my Burial database . …..
So I’m able to post Burial details for Sanby’s
Which I did not have when you 1st asked……..

Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 35 Elizabeth Sanby Abode. Great Casterton 26-Dec 1819 Aged.68
Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 99 James Sanby Abode. Great Casterton 30-Jul 1827 2wks
Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 327 Jane Rebecca Sanby Abode. Stamford 03-Oct 1847 Aged. 19
Barrowden - Rutland Burial No' 98 Mary Sarah Sanby Abode. Thorney Lin 22-Mar 1822 Aged. 1
Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 377 Rebecca Sanby Abode. Barrowden 10-Nov 1852 Aged. 57
Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 353 Samuel Sanby Abode. Stamford 07-Nov 1850 Aged.60
Great Casterton - Rutland Burial No' 64 William Sanby Abode. Great Casterton 07-Apr 1823 6wks

Sewell Burials of Interest. :~
Barrowden - Rutland Burial No' 304 Frances Sewell Abode. Barrowden 13-Mar 1845 Aged. 79
Langham - Rutland Burial No.147 Frances Sewell Abode. Langham 14-Nov 1901 Aged. 60
Langham - Rutland Burial No' 92 Robert Sewell Abode. Langham 06-Nov 1894 Aged. 83
Edith Weston - Rutland Burial No' 435 Robert Sewell Abode. Oakham Workhouse 25-Apr 1883 Aged. 79
Langham - Rutland Burial No' 199 Robert Sewell Abode. Langham 04-Mar 1908 Aged. 67

Parish Church for Barrowden is :~ St: Peter’s.

I’ll need to look at the original Registers of the Parishes to answer your other query.

MIKE. xx

Hello Mike
Great to see you are back, we missed you!

I am very excited because I have made some progress with my Sanby family but would really appreciate your help to check my findings. Remember Samuel Sanby’s will that you deciphered for me? Well I have found out that the executors John and Joseph Sewell were his cousins. Their mother was Frances Sanby (Sanbee) and she married Daniel Sewell 15/10/1797 in Barrowden, Rutland. I got this from IGI records but would like you to check it for me please to know the church they were married in.

If Frances was married in Barrowden maybe she was born there and maybe Samuel’s father Robert was born or married there? I would be so grateful if you could look at the registers for any sign of the Sanby family for me. This family seem to travel from Rutland to Lincolnshire on a regular basis and trying to keep track to them is challenging!!!

Hope you are well and thank you as always for your time.

Caroline xx

Hi Mike,
So nice to have you back....

.. and before I forget..
MERRY CHRISTMAS everybody...

now for the heavy stuff..

Looking for a marriage, maybe Hungerton or Melton Mowbray,
Henry Harley and Eleanor ,about 1731, first child born 1733 in Melton Mowbray. Not sure of their birth dates, but his parent were William Harley and Joan Clouson, married in 1689 Melton Mowbray.

Many Tks as always for your help.

Cheers.
Karen of ( very hot hot hot and sunny )Brisbane..

HI Mike

I don't think you will be able to helpme as it seems Oakthorpe and Donisthorpe comes under Derbyshire when they are in Leicestershire! A website suggests looking under Measham, Ashby, Stretton, Church Gresley and Netherseal. So, it looks like there wasn't a chirch in Oak. or Don. until 1838. Actually, do any of these parishes come under Leicestershire? maybe Ashby.

Regards
tracey

Seasons greetings to you Mike

Thank you, will wait til you can get there, no hurry.

William Underwood was a "ag lab" on the census

Fingers crossed the witnesses were family members

Sylvia

Seasonal Greeting’s again…….. Sylvia.

I’ll have to look at the original Parish registers for the Wit’s
For both Marriages & whilst I’m at it I’ll check out the Baptism one for
Houghton – on – the _ Hill.
Looking for the Magic occupation of “ Farmer” for William.

This will be next week now ....that's if no one upsets my plans again....Grr ....:o))

MIKE……….