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Karen,

Hungarton is not a million miles from Melton - about half an hour north east by car - tho it's more of a village than a town (nice pub tho I'm told!!).

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Maggie

Hi Mike,

So soorrry, my fingers got into a bit of a twist......

Hopefully the town I am after is HUNGERTON...

Are Hungerton and Melton Mowbray near each other ???

Cheers.
Karen Of Brisbane .. I think haha

Thanks, Mike, that's very kind of you :-)

Mary

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Following my weekly visit at the Records Office……

Confirmation of my details posted 14th March 09.

MARRIAGES.:~
1849.
St: Mary De Castro Parish Church. Leicester.

Entry No’. 497.18th. December.1849.
John William Flint. 25. bachelor. Servant. Great Holme Street Leicester.
Father :~ William Charles Flint. Gardener.

Sarah Ann Wakerley. 21. Spinster. Great Holme Street.
Father :~ Francis Wakerley. Labourer.

Married by Banns By John Wing. Curate.

Both signed the register by own signatures

In the Presence of :~
George Wakerley.
Caroline Wakerley.

1825.
St: Mary’s Parish Church. ANSTEY
Entry No’. 25.

George Wakerley. Bachelor of this Parish.
Elizabeth Hefford. Spinster. Of this Parish.
Married in this Church by Banns.
This Third Day of March.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty Five.

Both signed the register thus :~
George by own signature.
Elizabeth by her Mark . ….X

In the presence of :~
Francis Raynor.
Phoebe Hefford.

ANNO DOMINI 1803.

George Wakerley.
Sarah Morris
Both of this Chapelry
Married in this Church by Banns
This Third Day of May
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Three.
By Me :~ W. R. Tyson. Rector.

George signed by his Mark. …X
Sarah by her own signature.

In the Presence of :~.
Thomas Howard. ..by his Mark …..X
Wm. Sneath.

ST LEONARD’S Parish Church.
Swithland.

BAPTISMS :~

1825.
Entry. No’. 116. 13th. November.

Edward. Son of Francis & Elizabeth Wakerley.
Abode…Swithland.
Father’s Occupation. Labourer.

1827.
Entry No’. 134. 11th. June..

George. Son of Francis & Elizabeth Wakerley.
Swithland.
Labourer.


1836.
Entry No’. 230. 13th. June.
Francis. Son of Francis & Elizabeth Wakerley.
Swithland.
Labourer.

1838.
Entry. No’. 244. 20th. February.

Elizabeth. Daughter of Francis & Elizabeth Wakerley.
Swithland.
Labourer.

1841.
Entry No’. 285. 11th. April.
Letitia. Daughter of Francis & Elizabeth Wakerley.
Swithland.
Labourer.

ALL Baptisms conducted by Henry W. Spline.

Still not found a Burial for Francis 1841 ~ 51......Yet……

Hope the above helps

MIKE.

Greeting’s again. …… Mary O’ Italy.

I Can trawl the Church Registers which were operative
within Loughborough at the time each week at the Records office ......hoping to find it then………

Re Leicester Marriages pre 1800.
There is CD 32.
Borough of Leicester Marriage Index 1754. ~ 1800.

I’d better see if “ Alginone” can do a “ Special Chimney Run” before Christmas then…..

MIKE. xx

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Greeting’s again. ……Eileen.

I’m sorry your request had slipped my mind ……..

So….Details for Ogden events…….

Registers reads thus :~

ANNO DOMINI MARRIAGE :~1802.

St Martin’s Parish Church.
Leicester.
Entry No’. 16.

James Ogden. of this Parish.
Sarah Finch. of this Parish.

Married in this Church by Banns
This Twenty second Day of September.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Two.
By Me :~ Tho’ Vaughan. Vicar.

James signed the Register by his Mark …+
Sarah by her Mark. ….X

In the Presence of :~
Jennet Hadfield.
Thomas ??? …Sorry Surname not able to read this

BAPTISMS :~

Early Baptisms Just One Liners I’m afraid…..

ALL Saints Parish Church. Leicester
Baptisms to James & Sarah Ogden :~

1804.
James. Born 6th. March. Son of James & Sarah Ogden…Bapt. 7th. March.

1806.
William. Born 20th. July. Son of James & Sarah Ogden. Bapt. 23rd. July.

Baptisms conducted By Tho’ Vaughan Vicar.

BUT …. Then we get better details following “The Rose Act of Parliament 1810.”
Which I believe Clinches it for you…….

1814.
Entry No. 144…..2nd. April.
Sarah. Daughter of James & Sarah Ogden……
Abode BOND Street.
Father’s Occupation … A HATTER. …
The Rev’d John Benson.

1816.
Entry. No’. 335……..16th. May.
William Son of James & Sarah Ogden.
Abode….Bond Street.
Father’s Occupation…A Hatter.
The Rev’d John Owen. Officiating Minister.

1818.
Entry No’. 617…..12th. October.
Eliza. Daughter of James & Sarah Ogden.
Bond Street.
A Hatter.
John Cure. Curate.

Trawled up to 1825. But No other Baptisms found…..

I just need to checkout a burial for the first William born 1806.

I’m sorry for the delay but I think it’s worth it in the end ?

MIKE.

Hi Mike

Can I please ask if you are going to do another of your courses at the Record Office as I really wanted to go last time but it wasn't possible.

Regards

Half Pint

Hi Mike,

Thanks very much for the Cumberland-Parkinson marriage and bond.

As far as the Billson marriage goes, I'm pretty sure they were Baptists, but I didn't think Baptists could marry in their own churches before 1837?

You didn't give me the marriage disc, but two others, which have been very well used :-)

Do you know if there's a disc which also has Leics. marriages pre-1800?

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Greeting’s again. …… Karen O’ Brisbane.

I’m Struggling With The Name Of The Village “ HUNGEFORD “

I do not know of this Village .......do you mean “ HUNGARTON. “

Can you confirm this ?........before I trawl around.

MIKE.

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Greeting’s again Mary O’ Italy. ……

Transcript of the Marriage. William Cumberland ~ Catherine Parkinson. 1808. .

Fiche No’. D E 667./ 13.

Registers read thus :~

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1808.
ALL SAINTS Parish Church.
Loughborough,

Entry No’. 454.

William Cumberland. Of this Parish.
Catherine Parkinson. Of the same Parish.
Married in this Church by Licence
This Sixth Day of March.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Eight.
By Me :~ Stephen Alchurch. Curate.

Both signed the Register by their own signatures.

In the Presence of :~

George Brookes...... ( Parish Clark )
James North.

EXTRA INFORMATION Via the Licence Bonds :~

Approved & Granted ….2nd.March. 1808.

CUMBERLAND. WILLIAM. Farmer. Loughborough. Bachelor. 21.

PARKINSON. CATHERINE. WIDOW. 21.Loughborough.
Marriage to take place Loughborough.

Securer of £ 100 Bond.:~
James North. Bricklayer. Loughborough.

I’m still struggling with your John Billson. ~ Elizabeth Marriage. .

Trawled All Saints 1771. ~ 1815.but drew a Blank I’m afraid.
So next time I’ll have to explore Nonconformists records…….

Re the Disk ?

Did I not give you a copy of this at our day out at Loughborough Railway
when you were over here ?

It was by The Leicestershire & Rutland Family History Society.
CD No’. 16.
Leicester & Leicestershire Marriage Index 1800 ~ 1837.
Which covers most of the County plus the City of Leicester.

MIKE. XX

Hi Mike,

I see you are mobile after the 'toerag' took your car.....

When next you are in the office , could you please look up a marriage in either Hungeford or Melton Mowbray for...
Henry Harley and Eleanor ?? , their first child bc 1733 in Melton Mowbray. Not sure of their birth dates , but Henry's parents were William Harley and Joan 'Clouson', who I think were married in 1689 in Melton Mowbray.

Any info on these two families would be great.

Many tks for all your help...

Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

No, I have the CD of Phillimore's Leicestershire marriages, but it doesn't include Loughborough (or Leicester, come to that).

Does the early Leics Marriages disc cover most of the county?

Greeting’s again. …Mary O’ Italy.


Quote :~

“ Yes, you're right, Kitty's second husband was William Cumberland. Don't know if they married by Licence.”

Unquote……

Oh dear !!! .Your not using the disk of early Leicestershire Marriages 1801. ~ 37 then ……:0(((

All Saints Parish Church Loughborough
6th. March.1808. By LICENCE

OK . ....... I’ll have a look at that one just in case the Securer of Bonds is related to either side or Wit’s names

MIKE. XXX

Ooh, brilliant, Mike, thanks very much.

Yes, you're right, Kitty's second husband was William Cumberland. Don't know if they married by licence.

John and Elizabeth were Kitty's parents. I'm pretty sure they were Baptists, but they must have been married somewhere.

I'm trying to sort out this lot because I've discovered a Chancery case involving the Parkinsons, Billsons, Cumberlands and Burbidges. It seems to hinge on the will of Kitty's father John Billson - I'm still waiting for the details.

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Greeting’s again Mary O’ Italy…….

Just the One Hit out of the two asked for :~

Fiche No’. D E 667. / 13..1 of 4 Fiches.

ALL SAINTS PARISH CHURCH. LOUGHBOROUGH.

MARRIAGES ANNO DOMINI :~ 1800.

Entry No. 8.

Edward Parkinson. Of the Part Parish of Sawley in the County of Leicestershire.

KITTY Billson. Of this Parish.

Married in this Church By LICENCE
This Ninth day of December.
One Thousand Eight Hundred.
By Me :~ E. Shaw. Curate.

Both signed the register in their own signatures.

In the Presence of :~

William Parkinson.
Sarah Billson.

EXTRA INFORMATION Via the Licence Bonds :~

Approved & Granted ….5th. Dec. 1800.

PARKINSON….EDWARD. Farmer of Sawley Derbyshire. Bachelor. 21.

BILLSON. KITTY. Spinster. 21. of Loughborough.
Marriage to take place in Loughborough.

Securer of £200 Bond.:~

Samuel Marriott Shoe Maker. Hathern.

I assume Catherine’s second marriage was :~

To William Cumberland 6th. March.1808. By Licence ?

But I did NOT find your other one for John Billson ~ Elizabeth ?

I’ll have another go at it again tomorrow Thursday. 19/3/09.

MIKE.

Greeting’s again. ……. Kathleen.

I had a few moments spare to day at the Records Office ……

So I had a look at the Burial Registers for the Parish Barlestone
These read thus :~

BURIALS 1911.

Entry No’ 392.

Ernest Gibson.
Abode. .... Barlestone.
8th. December. 1911.
Aged 9 yrs.
W.J. Bill. Curate.

So. ...NO mention of an address in Leicester.

Re :~ Burial No’.

No these are not the Plot Numbers….
It only relates to the Register entry.
But it does indicate that the burial took place
Within the Church yard or a Civic Cemetery.

Seeing the year date then I’m sure that by then they were obliged to keep a record of where the plot was in a Burial Plan of the Church yard
So…….
The latest contact I have for St: Giles Parish Church :~

The Rev’d Gill Dallow.
c/o The New Vicarage.
No’. 22, Bosworth Road .
Barlestone.
CV 13 0 EL.

If you drop them a note asking for location details for William
They might be able to help you.

MIKE

Thanks again Mike for your help.

Regards
Kathleen

Greeting’s again. …….. Kathleen.

The other reason I’m thinking it’s the same person for both events
Is that if it was two separate Deaths / Burials
Then there should have been two Index records of these events on the G.R.O. Site.
But there is just the one that being the Leicester one.
The other one would had have Market Bosworth District
Which Barlestone came under
Included within the Cert details.

But as you say best to order that cert and take it from there
But do not forget it’s a Death cert. so NO details of where the burial took place.

MIKE.

Thanks Mike for the up-date, I' m bit confused now though, can't see what the connection to Barleston would be, I think the only way to see if he's mine is to get the death cert.

Many thanks

Regards
Kathleen

I have just updated my post