Genealogy Chat

Hi Derek... Re Frederick Thomas Strong Furniss

I sent for the 1840 marriage cert. Frederick Furniss to Mary Barnes in Prestwich Lancs, using John Furniss {father} as reference check.

It has arrived today, the father is what looks like Nimrod Furniss a moulderer, same proffesion as his son, so definetly not my frederick Thomas strong Furniss, who was a plumber, so am still no further forward.

Why don`t the GRO take any notice of the reference check? I will have to phone them on Monday about getting my money back, the print out of the application form that arrived with it clearly states the ref. check.

Nicky

Hello Derek, Thanks for your help.
His marriage is another problem !! .Their first child Peter was born 1845 in Portsmouth barracks.
Ann.

Hi Ann..I saw the teachester bit..but that's a mistranscriptio coe there ain't no such place..was Chester..Glad we got the right one.
We have to find WHERE her married Catherine.....

Hello Derek,
Yes that is him.I was confused because his army record says he was born in Belper, 1861 census says Teachester Cheshire & 1871 census says Leicester.
I think he died in 1879 age 72 Sheffield.
I cannot find his marriage to Catherine Fitzpatrick.
Thank you for looking.
Regards Ann.

Hello Ann..you say you have David's military details....did he serve in Ireland????
There is only one entry for him on the census...which to me means he was out of the country till after the 1851 census and maybe died before the 1971 census.see what you think:
DAVID STONE born 1808 Chester..married CATHERINE (from Jersey)
In 1861.aged 52/3 hw is a Colliery labourer at Belper.......he has FOUR sons.. which were born in Ireland (but registered British Subjects.which usually infers British father in the armed forces)
Peter 1846/ David 1848 (both Coal miners.at such a tender age!!)..George 1852 and William 1854....
Does this fit with anything you have?? If not i'll keep looking

Derek

Hello Derek,
Please can you give me the info on David Stone
of Alfreton born 1808 Chester?
Regards Ann.

I have noticed that sometimes it is spelt Nightengale.

Thank you for your time Derek.

ann
glos

Hi Ann.....if born in Belper she would have been registered in Duffield..cos belper is not in itself a Parish.......I'll collate all the Nightingales I can find..some of them are Nightingalls!...and when i have I'll send them to you......might take some time!!
Derek

Thanks Derek Ellen was definitely in Belper as a child as she attended strutts school. Maybe she wasn't born there even though the censuses say she was.

ann
Glos

Ann..just to let you know i am on the case...Have found Nightingale's in the general area, but not yet snything that ties up with what you have given me.....

Derek

Hi Derek,
I am searching for confirmation of a birth/baptism of Ellen Nightingale c1806 in the Duffield area, may be Belper. Parents William Nightingale and either Elisabeth or Mary.

I thought it was Elizabeth but future siblings seem to have mother Mary.

I have not found a death for Elisabeth.

I have also not found a marriage for William and Elisabeth or William and Mary.

I think Ellen is the eldest. child.

I am having great difficulty unravelling this part of my family so any help would be appreciated thank you.

ann
Glo

Hi Derek,

Tks for that info on Samuel, were there any parents names mentioned ..

Cheers.
Karen

Hello Derek.
Please can you give me the info on the David Stone

of Alfreton born Chester.I have his army record & he

was born 1808.He enlisted from Belper in 1832.On

the 1861 census he says he was born in Cheshire

Thanks Ann

Hi Ann..re David Stone.......are you sure about the date????..or do you know who he married??

I only have one David Stone of belper(Alfreton0 around that date and he was born in Chester..

Another was born Belper 1829....any more infor you can give me ?

Derek

Karen.i have found Samuel Winchester born 01.11.1771 Chesterfield..no further details yet.

Derek

Hello Derek,
Please can you look up the birth of David Stone
C 1807 Belper ? I am looking for his parents.
Many Thanks.
Ann.

Thanks for looking Derek

Best wishes

Kathleen

Hi Derek,

Sorry for being so pushy..

The only info I have on a place is that Samuel Winchester and Elizabeth Morleys daughter Julia, bc 1796 married Henry Harley at St Werburgh ,15 May 1814.

I thank you for all your help...

Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

Ps..regarding the family you mentioned.. a sad story, and as you say strange they both died on the same day ?? a fire maybe...

Hi Karen..I hadn't forgotten you, its just a massive job finding any Winchesters..i only have a couiple of Chesterfield Registers and believe me there are any number of Parishes..I don't suppose you cam narrow it down to part of Chesterfield??

In passing..I have unearthed a very sad story..maybe related. maybe not,

I'll just give you facts and the dates and let you see how tragic it was::

Bakewell Parish Register

Humphrey Winchester married Elizabeth Moor 06.07.1766........
Children:
James b 08.08.1767
Thomas b 16.07.1769......died 21.07.1769
Elizabeth b 15.05.1770
Thomas b 11.03.1771......died 14.05.1771
William b 07.07.1773... died 09.07.1773
Mary b 03.07.1774... died 27.03.1775
Lydia b 07.08.1776 .... died 26.08.1779
Francis b.01.09.1779 ... died 13.09.1779
Mary Ann b 16.09.1784

Poor woman!! what on earth was he thinking of subjecting her to such pain and turmoil??
One last thread........
Both Humphrey and Elizabeth died on the same day..10.02.1814....howv and why together??? we'll never know!

All the best

Derek

Derek..... Thanks for your input.....will order from the GRO online, so as I can do ref. check for father.......I have ordered from the Lancs BMD before and am pretty sure the ref. check facility isn`t available with them, do not want a cert. for the wrong Fred Furniss so will do it that way..... will let you know how i get on.


Nicky