Genealogy Chat

Hi Wendy..you 've thrown me a curved one here!! Derbyshire is my speciality!!
However.I have found a bit for you.
Sarah M Callow..born Chester c 1889.daughter of William H callow and Eliza..(died 1898)

Initialy it appeasr unlikely that Sarah M was buried in chester because the family comes from Liverpool..indeed there is only one record of her even coming from Chester..The 1891 Census has both Eliza and William in Liverpool.....their childre.all born Liverpool were:

William H 1876
Annie 1878
Sarah 1889 ish!!
Frederick 1889

Its almost impossible to find eliza's maiden name although if i look long enough at Eliza's born Liverpool 1857 long wnough i might find her..at the moment i can't find Williams marriage to Eliza...
I'll stick with it for a bit

Derek

Hi Derek,

Thanks for your very kind offer I am interested in any Dumelow information. They are mostly from the Chesterfield area.

Dave D

Hello Derek
I am not sure whether you can help me or not.
My Grandma was Born in Chester in 1887.
Sarah Marie Callow.
I am trying to find out if her Mother was buried in Chester Cathedral Cemetary, I am led to believe she was.
So I wondered if you could find any confirmation on
Eliza Callow b 1857, liverpool.I do not know her maiden name, I am afraid.
If there was any other Callow's mentioned anywhere.
I really do realise that this is a tall order, where there is hope, well, exceptional people like you, help so many people.
Many thanks
Wendy sox1

There are so many of you on here who have comleted their research, it amazes me..... been doing this 5 years now, but still have a long way to go, still i`m only in my 40s so will give me something to do when I retire....... expect i`ll still be on the trail of these pesky Furnisses!!! lol

So lovely of you all to just pay all your subs just to help others, mind you I can while away hours on here, this hobby is so addictive so do understand.

Nicky

Hi nicky..most of my own research is complet.so i am mainly searching on behalf of others....so you're a member of the club!!
We'll get there!

Derek

Oh Derek, thats so kind of you ....thank you...... as long as you have time to do your own research , I would be very grateful.

Nicky

Hi nicky....having real trouble here..sorry...there are more than three ALL Saints in the Chesterfield area...and usually i can find a way round ..but not in this case..sorry.....
I am going to Matlock Records Office soemtime next week........I'll put you on lthe list..
Sorry i can't do better..but it sems nobody has transcribed the records..so I'll go to the originals..and that means a trip to matlock!!
Hang in there!! lol

Derek

Hi Derek...... wondered if you had found the info I asked about a few days ago?

Please could you look for the marriage of Thomas Furniss to Sarah Whilton at all saints Chesterfield on 2nd August 1874?.... I wondered if you had any additional information eg. Witness`s.

Also wondered if you`d found any other marriages of a Thomas furniss to a Sarah around the same time.?

thanks in advance.

Nicky

Gone a bit quiet in this neck of the woods!!

Derek

Hi Derek,

All the info you have noted is correct. I have been able to do extensive research for Julia and Henry, in a most amazing way due to the different spelling on the census, but nevertheless found the info.

I am a member of Ancestry, so will look again for this probate , thought I had looked thru these records, what dates was this record ?

I had lots of trouble finding Henry and Julia on the 1841 census, spelling hopeless, found them in Lei under the surname HARTLEY.
Also very strange that some of their children were bap in Chesterfield ( as found on the LDS web site) and same children were bap in St Margaret Lei, which I found when reading the parish records for St Margaret.

I must say researching this family is never dull. So is my next step ....in my search for the Winchester family...getting the parish records for Chesterfield, or is this what you have been looking at? I feel I must find someone who has researched Julia's uncles, and have found none on GR, Roots web, Google, Ancestry. Maybe this family just disappeared , due to no off spring.

Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

PS.. HAVE JUST SEARCHED ANCESTRY FOR PROBATE, AND CAN ONLY FIND THE MARRAGE FOR JULIA WINCHESTER AND HENRY HARELY...I MUST BE LOOKING AT THE WRONG INFO...K

hi
derek
thank you for the reply it now gives me another branch to my tree a big big
thank you
mandy

Have also found Henry and Julia Harvey...with three children including Lydia..in leicestershire..any bells ringing?????

Karen....have just found a Probate record on Ancestry.co.uk..for julia Wilkinson and Henry Harley.....and i have to update by £9.99 per month to access it!!........which obviously I ma not prepared to do....but it obviously confirms your info..
Derek......

Hi karen.sorry i couldn't be of any real help..but its one hell of a story..Thomas Winchester..I see now..was a widower...but lived in the same house at 1 Red Street radford Nottingham for 40 years.alone..except that latterly he took in lots of lodgers.....
Sadly the street no longer exists..and equally sadly i can't find him on the 1841 census...
I really must try and find Chesterfield parish records that show his birth....It was c 1800....

Keep in touch.

Derek x

Hi Derek,

Tks for the reply.

The Winchester who moves to Notts is the brother of Julia, whose family I have traced and is on my direct line. His name is Thomas, he married but was widowed by the 1841 census. I have been able to trace Julia and her husband Henry Harley, but as you can see have come to brick wall with the Winchesters.

Many tks for your help.
Cheers.
Karen of Brisbane

Hi karen..seems odd but i can find no burials in the whole of Derbyshire for Winchester.I'm sure there were some.
But..I have had a look on the census returns,,and it seems that most of the Winchester's moved out of the area....some down south....But one guy..who seems not to have ever married is on FOUR consecutive Censuses..Born Chesterfield....lived for 40 years or more in Nottingham..not a stone's throw from where i live!!
Sorry not to be more use.

Derek

Hello Mandy..unfortunately I have only Partial Parish records for Hayfield and for Glossop.....I have the full Bishops Transcripts but unfortunately they end at 1810...
So all I can do is confirm the information you have given me James and Esther (Downs)..and four children....one of whom is William who married Caroline..
BUT..I have no record of William remaarying to Ann..
The William groves who marrried Ann(e) was born in Nottingham....
I'll keep looking for you, but I'm a bit weak on the very Northern part of Derbyshire

All the best

Derek.

sorry derek the surname is groves
thanks mandy

Hi Derek

I had previously asked you to look up some info on Winchesters of Chesterfield. You mentioned that there were lots on parishes in Chesterfield to go thru. This family appears to disappear by the 1841 census ( no Whinchester, or only one or 2), would you have the Burial index for Chesterfield and are there any Winchesters on it ? .

Cheers for now...

Karen of Brisbane

Mandy....a surname would be very useful!!!!
Can't do much without it!!

Derek