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hope someone out there can help I have found my GG Grandfather in the 1881 census but cant find out his birth or who his parents are?
Henry cooper 1845
eliza cooper 1845
elizabeth cooper 1866
anna cooper1870
emanuel cooper 1875
alice cooper 1878
william cooper 1880

where is this? There are a lot of Coopers out there!

This lot?

1881 - for ref:

Emanuel J. Cooper
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Clanaborough
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address: Thorn Moor Cottage
Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Crediton
Sub registration district: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 2 and 3
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Household Members:
Name Age

Alice A. Cooper 3
Anna M. Cooper 11
Eliza Cooper 36
Elizabeth Cooper 15
Emanuel J. Cooper 6
Henry Cooper 36
William H. Cooper 1

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Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2228; Folio: 25; Page: 7; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341537.

hi jill thanks for info its henrys mother father i am looking for cant seem to find anything out about his parents didnt make it very clear sorry it is the correct family although I have tried for birth certifacate but have no luck there either no fathers

name mother illedgible any help.
regards sue

Have you managed to find Henry in any earlier censuses?

His birth reg maybe?

Henry Cooper
Year of Registration: 1844
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: South Molton
County: Devon
Volume: 10
Page: 190

Possible for 1871 - Depends if Anna M in 1881 is the same as Maria in 1881 ...

Elizabeth Marten is shown as sister.

Henry Cooper
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Bow, Devon, England
Civil Parish: Crediton
Town: Uton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Crediton
Sub registration district: Crediton
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Eliza Cooper 27
Elizabeth Cooper 4
Henry Cooper 28
Maria Cooper 2
Elizabeth Martin 14

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Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 2162; Folio: 44; Page: 3; GSU roll: 832042.

This would be the marriage to match the 1871 couple - still not 100% convinced it's your Henry and Elizabeth yet.

Marriages Dec 1864 (>99%)
Cooper Henry Crediton 5b 738 Scan available - click to view
Martin Eliza Crediton 5b 738 Scan available - click to view
Rice Richard Crediton 5b 738 Scan available - click to view
Snell Matilda Crediton 5b 738

1861 - happier with this one as it matches Henry's birthplace of South Tawton - plus he has a brother called Emanuel ...

Henry Cooper
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: South Tawton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: South Tawton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: Okehampton
Sub registration district: Okehampton
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
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Household schedule number: 27
Household Members:
Name Age
Emanuel Cooper 14
George Cooper 15
Henry Cooper 19
James Cooper 17
Jane Cooper 53
William Cooper 50
William Cooper 20

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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1467; Folio: 116; Page: 6; GSU roll: 542817.

1861 - address is Addisett(?) Village. Dad is a farmer of 80 acres employing 1 labourer. The whole family are born South Tawton.

Marriages \oct/Nov/Dec 1864

Cooper Henry Crediton 5b 738
Martin Eliza Crediton 5b 738

1851:

Henry Cooper
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: South Tawton, Devon, England

Civil Parish: South Tawton
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Okehampton
Sub registration district: Bratton Clovelly
ED, institution, or vessel: 5c
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Household schedule number: 130
Household Members:
Name Age
Emanuel Cooper 3 Mo
George Cooper 2
Henry Cooper 8
James Cooper 5
Jane Cooper 42
John Cooper 12
William Cooper 41
William Cooper 10

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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1885; Folio: 449; Page: 29; GSU roll: 221034-221035.

1851 - address is Addiscott. Dad is farming 50 acres. Mum is born in Spreyton (?). Rest are born South Tawton.

1841:

John Cooper
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Gender: Male
Where born: Devon, England

Civil Parish: South Tawton
Hundred: Wonford
County/Island: Devon
Country: England

Street address:

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Registration district: Okehampton
Sub registration district: Okehampton
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Household Members:
Name Age
Jane Cooper 30
John Cooper 2
William Cooper 30
William Cooper 6 Mo

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Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 265; Book: 3; Civil Parish: South Tawton; County: Devon; Enumeration District: 12; Folio: 5; Page: 4; Line: 6; GSU roll: 241330.

William's birth?

Births Dec 1840 (>99%)
Cooper William Okehampton 10 168 Scan available - click to view

many thanks to geraldine and Jill for there help with the cooper family

No worries.

If you think this is the right family - I'm not sure about the 1871 details - then I suggest you send off for one of the other children's birth certs if you cannot narrow down the entry for Henry. Reg District should be Okehampton.

Jill