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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)
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8 Jul 2008 19:24 |
Greeting's again Sheila
MORE Bodycote information for you I've just posted on the Leicestershire thread .....
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Sheila
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8 Jul 2008 18:21 |
Hi Mike
Sorry for delayed response - only just found this. As ever sterling work on your behalf for which I am most grateful. The 1861 census is of little moment as the family has turned up mistranscribed in Ilkeston of all places!
I too had come to the same conclusion, that we have parallel families and that the Churchgate family is not mine, but belongs to someone else on here, although there may be a connection further back.
My lot seem quite interesting as Charles was born in Bengal in 1821 (India Office records) and his mother in Madras in 1803. I await a copy of his parents ' marriage entry. The question is whether his mother was actually Indian or whether she was an 'army brat'. The Birstall branch of the family believe she was Indian... so this looks like even more work to do!
The extra names on the grave particularly interesting as it now looks as if Ann's three marriages produced eight children instead of the five I thought, but three died young.
Thanks again
Sheila
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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)
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2 Jul 2008 21:40 |
Greeting’s again Sheila
Following an in depth look at the Baptisms registers at the Records Office for St. Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester 1842. ~ 1856. Having 1st made a list of all children born to either Charles & Mary Bodycot or Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote.
I came to the conclusion that these were TWO separate Families. Charles & Mary Bodycot seem too live in South Church gate. And Charles & Mary Anne lived in Eaton Street ( which is two streets away from Denman St. and Denmark St. is two streets away from Denman St.)
Registers read thus :~
Entry No.2614. 24th. Sept. 1852. Mary Ann. Daughter of Charles & Mary BODYCOT South Church Gate. F.W.K. Henry Wood. Curate.
Entry No. 302. 24th. Dec. 1854. Charles. Son of Charles & Mary BODYCOT. South Church Gate. F.W.K. L. Miles. Curate.
Entry No. 687. 20th. Aug. 1856. Henry. Son of Charles & Mary. BODYCOT. South Church Gate. F.W.K. T. Jones. Vicar.
A MARRIAGE Found for the above ?
St. Mary’s Parish Church Leicester. ( Later to become Mary De Castro Parish Church. )
Entry No. 195.
Charles Bodycot ~ MARY SIMPSON. Both of this Parish.
Married in this Church by Banns This Twentieth Day of February One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Seven. By me :~ Henry Low. Curate.
Both signed the register by their own Marks Charles Bodycot …+ Mary Simpson ….X ( No mention of Anne as middle name )
In the Presence of :~ John Martin. Charlotte NOON. ( Theres another ref to a Noon for you ...) Entry No. 873. 22nd. Jun. 1842. William. Son of Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote. Eaton Street. Frame Work Knitter.. J. R. Shortland. Curate.
Entry. No.1546. 21st. June. 1849. ANNE. Daughter of Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote. Eaton Street. Frame Work Knitter. J.Baly Curate.
Entry No. 2280. 21st. May. 1851. Emma. Daughter of Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote. Eaton Street. Frame Work Knitter. .M. Edgate . Curate.
Entry No.286. 11th Oct. 1854. Joseph. Son of Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote. Eaton Street. Frame Work Knitter…..Charles Gerard. Andrew Curate.
I’m inclined to go with the Charles & Mary Anne Bodycote family ?
Going on later Street names on the Burial details Remembering in was costly to move to far in those days also Charles would not lose out on any customers he had built up through his business.
Oh ......I seem to remember that in 1861. The Census returns for this area Went walkies….gr. :0(((
But the choice is yours……..
MIKE.
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Sheila
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30 Jun 2008 14:02 |
Mike
Sorry I meant Whitworth!
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30 Jun 2008 13:49 |
Mike
NB Elizabeth Bodycott Whitwell, should be E~ B~ Whitwirth - she will be a child of Annie's sister.
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29 Jun 2008 16:39 |
Nudging in the hope someone feels like a go at the 1862 instead of watching the football.
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Still thinking about those poor babies...
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Sheila
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29 Jun 2008 10:31 |
Thanks everyone for your input. Mike - as always you are a star!
Mike - this burial plot - would everyone be related?
Joseph Goadby was my great great grandfather, Mary Ann Bodycott was his mother in law and Annie Riley is Ann Bodycote by any other name.
I'll trawl through the rest of the responses and see where we go, but the Bodycote family on the 1861 are still eluding me.
Thanks again
Sheila
If they are all related then I guess I'd better get the certificates for the babies as they could all be hers.
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Irene
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28 Jun 2008 23:05 |
FreeBMD Ann Bodycote registered at Leicester 1849. Irene
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Mike. The Leicester Lad.(GC)
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28 Jun 2008 20:47 |
Greeting’s …Sheila.
Here is the Index ref for the Baptism of Anne Bodycote St Margaret’s Parish Church Leicester.
1546 24D65 B6 20-Jun 1849 Anne Bodycote Charles & Mary Anne.
I just need to check out the address from the Registers at the Records Office this week to be sure it’s the right Ann Bodycote and report back on this thread for you.
Burial Details for the Death you found Dec Qrt. 1849 :~ St. Margaret’s Parish Church :~ BODYCOTE ANN 18 NOV 1849 Aged.84 Note age…!!! … Plus the Transcript of Ann’s Marriage to Joseph St. Margaret's Parish Church. Leicester. Entry No.122, DEC 22, 1867, after Banns JOSEPH GOADBY, 22, Bachelor. RIVETTER, of PINGLE St, Son. of JOSEPH GOADBY, Frame Work Knitter. ANN BODYCOTE, 19, Spinster. of WILLOW St, Daughter. of CHARLES BODYCOTE, Frame Work Knitter. Wits: THOMAS GOADBY, SARAH GOADBY.
Burial Details Welford Road Leicester. Plot C.N. 175.:~ C Goadby Emma 1875 Aug 17 4mths Denmark Street Saint Margaret 16963 C Whitwell Elizabeth Bodycott 1875 Aug 28 4mths Melville Street Saint Margaret 16995 C GOADBY JOSEPH 1877 SEP 14 Aged.32 PALMERSTON STREET SAINT MARGARET 19001 F SMITH WILLIAM ERNEST 1883 FEB 27 4MTHS DENMARK STREET SAINT MARGARET 24129 F RILEY ROSS ERNEST ALBERT 1885 JAN 31 5MTHS DENMARK STREET SAINT MARGARET 26063 F BODYCOTT MARY ANN 1898 NOV 7 80 DENMARK STREET LEICESTER 41981 F RILEY ANNIE 1929 FEB 28 Aged.81 2 DENMARK STREET LEICESTER 63106
Abv. C. = Common Plot. F. = Freehold Plot. Lease taken out.
Hope this is of help
MIKE.
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Selena in South East London
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28 Jun 2008 19:35 |
Children of Charles and Mary Ann Simpson. All are submitted entries
Harriet Bodicot Christening: 20 FEB 1849 St Margarets, , Leicester, England Henry S Bodicot Christening: 18 MAR 1846 St Margarets, , Leicester, England Emma Bodicot Christening: 21 MAY 1851 St Margarets, , Leicester, William Bodicot Birth: 1842 , Leicester, England Mary Ann Bodicot Christening: 24 SEP 1852 St Margarets, , Leicester, England Hope this is the right family Selena
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Selena in South East London
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28 Jun 2008 19:31 |
Not sure if this is the right area?
Births Sep 1850 Bodycote Ann Lutterworth 15 16[61]
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Selena in South East London
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28 Jun 2008 19:28 |
This is a submitted entry on familysearch Ann Bodicot Birth: 1850 , Leicester, England Father: Charles Bodicot Mother: Mary Ann Simpson
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Sheila
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28 Jun 2008 17:53 |
Hi Keith
Thanks for that, but I think that's the parallel family. If you go back to the 1851 you will find that family with just the one child, Thomas, living not far away from the family that Kath posted.
I'm now on the hunt for Ann with parents Chalres (b c1821) and Mary Ann (b c 1817) on the 1861 and I can't see them...at all...
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KeithInFujairah
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28 Jun 2008 17:48 |
1861? Name: Mary A Bodycote Age: 9 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Female Where born: Leicester, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret Town: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address: 23 Rowan Church Gate
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 65 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 82 Household Members: Name Age Barbara Bodycote 3 Charlotte Bodycote 1 Henry Bodycote 5 Mary A Bodycote 9 Charles Bordicott 41 Framework Knitter Mary Bordicott 41 Thomas Bordicott 11
Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2292; Folio: 37; Page: 12
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Sheila
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28 Jun 2008 17:41 |
I've now looked for Charles and Mary Ann on the 1861 and can't find the, or William or Ann.
Is it me?
Sheila
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Sheila
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28 Jun 2008 17:33 |
Thanks Kath - do you have a reference for that, cos I couldn't find it. I have a family with Charles and Mary as parents - must be a parallel one.
Sheila
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28 Jun 2008 17:28 |
Ann Bodycote is with the family in 1851 census:-
Name: Ann Bodycote Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Charles Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: St Margaret, Leicestershire, England Civil Parish: Leicester St Margaret Town: Leicester County/Island: Leicestershire Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View Image Registration district: Leicester Sub registration district: East Leicester ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 116 Household Members: Name Age Ann Bodycote 1 Charles Bodycote 30 Mary Ann Bodycote 34 William Bodycote 8
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2088; Folio: 656; Page: 34; GSU roll: 87716.
Father Charles is a Stocking Maker - which could be similar to a FWK. Kath. x
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Sheila
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28 Jun 2008 17:25 |
On December 22nd 1867 my great great grandparents married at St Margarets Church in Leicester. He was Joseph Goadby aged 22, she was Ann Bodycote aged 19.
I have them both on the 1871 census. Joseph died in 1877, but I have Annie (as she was known) on all the censuses up to 1901 and her death reference from 1929.
On her marriage certificates (all three of them!), her father is described as Charles Bodycote FWK.
I have a Bodycote family (father Charles FWK) on 1851 and 1861 censuses in Churchgate Leicester, but no sign of Annie. I've tried all the permutations of the spelling of the surname I can think of, but I cannot find Annie as a child on the census.
I thought I had found a birth reference for her on Free BMD, JQ1849 Leicester 15 106 and then I found a death for a child of the same name (exactly) in the December Quarter!
I've not looked at this line for ages, but I've just had a Hot Match and if Annie belongs in the family I have transcribed then we are related. If she doesn't, I'm not.
Anyone fancy playing with this? I'll be on line for another hour or so and then will check back tomorrow.
Thanks
Sheila
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