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Ok I am totally addicted but I've come to a complete blank and think I need some help please if you could be so kind to advise

I have found my gg grandfather in the 1901 census whose name was Albert James Gregory (aged 27) and also his wife (24) named Rosina who was born in Bournemouth. The census lists names of my great aunts and uncles but not my granddad as hw wasnt born until years later

My grandad died in 1984 and as I know he was young when his parents died and I feel the urge to find out where I come from and to pay my respects to them and getting to try to 'know' them (if this makes sense?)

I thought I would be able to at least find a death or marriage certificate of Albert Gregory and his wife Rosina and I cant find anything...no marriage, death etc?

Where am I going wrong?

I know that his place of birth was Radstock and my gg grans was Bournemouth and that the time of the census were living at 12 Bush House, Rhondda , Glamorganshire

Any advice please?
With thanks
Cath

A possible marriage?

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
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Marriages Jun 1896 (>99%)
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>>>BARTON Rosina Hartley W. 2c 396
Carter Arthur Leonard Hartley W. 2c 396
>>>Gregory Albert Hartley W. 2c 396
Pither Mary Hartley W. 2c 396

What was your grandads name and when/where was he born?

Sam x

There is also this possible.

She is listed as Rose but the registration area includes Rhondda.

Does it fit in with the births of children?

Marriages Sep 1892 (>99%)

GREGORY Albert Pontypridd 11a 652
Hughes Robert Pontypridd 11a 652
Morgan Edith Pontypridd 11a 652
Osborne Rose Pontypridd 11a 652

Chris

1901 for reference

Name: Albert James Gregory
Age in 1901: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Rosina
Gender: Male
Where born: Radstock, Somerset, England

Civil Parish: Ystradyfodwg
Ecclesiastical parish: Llwynypia St Andrew
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Albert James Gregory 27
Albert James Gregory 5
Joseph Gregory 1
Louisa Gregory 3
Mary A Gregory 8
Rosina Gregory 95 <<Image 25


Children born Wales so the Pontypridd marriage looks good.

Chris

Hi both

thanks for your great messages

My grandads name was Arthur Gregory , born Sep 11 1916 - it lists his district as Pontypridd and his mums maiden name as Osbourn

I wondered about the name Rosina too Sam - Are the things below actual marriages ??? That Rose Osbourn and Albert Gregory is looking pretty good!
GREGORY Albert Pontypridd 11a 652
Hughes Robert Pontypridd 11a 652
Morgan Edith Pontypridd 11a 652
Osborne Rose Pontypridd 11a 652

Thats them :o) But the age of Rosina is actually 25 - Ive seen the original document online and theyve done a typo on her age


Registration district: Pontypridd
Sub registration district: Ystradyfodwg
ED, institution, or vessel: 41
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 19
Household Members: Name Age
Albert James Gregory 27
Albert James Gregory 5
Joseph Gregory 1
Louisa Gregory 3
Mary A Gregory 8
Rosina Gregory 95

sorry - Arthurs birthdate was sep 22 1916

Sep 11th just stuck in my mind for all the wrong reasons!

Chris
That marriage is looking good especially when you work out that the daughter was 8 in 1901

Where did you find it and where do I search?

You wont believe how excited Im getting here!
cath x

Catherine

Sorry I went offline.

I found the marriage on FreeBMD
www.freebmd.org

I used the following in the marriage search

Surname Greg*
First names Alb*
Spouse first name Ros*
Date range Mar 1880 to (left blank)

That threw up 3 marriages before 1901.
Then looking at the ages and place of birth for the children the Pontypridd looked the most likely.

Chris

There is an online parish clerk for Radstock if you want to go further back.

http://wsom-opc.org.uk/Data/Parish_Gaz.php?k=471

Sue

I think this must be Albert Gregory in 1881. The birthplace is very close to Radstock.

Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John COTTLE Head M Male 39 Kilmersdon, Somerset, England Colliery Labourer
Eliza COTTLE Wife M Female 38 Midsr Norton, Somerset, England
Albert GREGORY Nephew U Male 7 Midsr Norton, Somerset, England Scholar
Henry DALLIMORE Boarder U Male 30 Radstock, Somerset, England Farm Labourer


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Source Information:
Dwelling 3 Duck Lane
Census Place Camerton, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341584
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2428 / 126
Page Number 6

Thanks everybody for that, muchly appreciated...really pleased

Does anyone know why the address are different for the same household? or am I reading it wrong?

Is the address 3 Duck Lane and the addresses after their names where they were born?

I've got a few shivers going down my spine as new names , dates and possibilities come along - My husband is pouting as Ive been on here for 2 days solid and ignoring him! ;o)

...feel a fool now as Ive just realised that I've been reading the ages of them as house numbers (DOH!)

I wonder why the nephew is living with this pair?

He could have just been staying the night with them.

Sue

Here is the marriage of aunt and uncle.

Marriages Dec 1866
COTTLE John Clutton 5c 1065
GREGORY Eliza Clutton 5c 1065

If you buy this marriage certificate it will tell you Eliza's father who is presumably the grandfather of Albert.

Sue

Sue your an absolute star!

Where do I get the marriage cert from?? Can I purchase online?
Im new to this so just starting out!

Your find has really put the cream on the cake - Thank you so much!
cath x

To order any certificate, go to www.gro.gov.uk, click on Ordering Certiifcates Online, follow instructions.

When asked if you have the GRO reference number say YES ....... it is the set of 2 numbers that follow the place of registration (ie, at the right side of the line).

Each certificate will cost £7


You can also order certificates from some registry office, although not all of them do that.

You can also order through freebmd ........ just scroll down below the registrations that you have found and there is "Has our search engine found the record you are seeking. Click here to learn what to do now."



NEVER pay more than £7 or at the most £8 for a certificate.