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Don't know how she is related, thought Jane may have been a Speddy before marriage but this looks like the marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page


Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%)

<<<MARSHALL Jane Lancaster 8e 968
Sewell Joseph Lancaster 8e 968
Spencer Mary Elizabeth Lancaster 8e 968
<<<TYSON John Lancaster 8e 968

Christine

Christine, I have only just noticed that she is a niece.
Perhaps her mother was a Marshall, like Jane. That would make her a sister of Jane.
Huia.

Time I headed off to bed now.
Huia.

Could this be Jane Marshall's sister Nancy marrying Thomas Speddy and possible parents of Ellen (Eleanor)

Marriages Sep 1880 (>99%)

Nancy Marshall
Thomas William Speddy Lancaster 8e 979

Death of Thomas Jun qtr 1891

Speddy Thomas William 28 Lancaster 8e 673

Here's Nancy in 1891 widowed

1891 England Census
about Nancy Speddy
Name: Nancy Speddy
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Skerton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Speddy 5
Nancy Speddy 32
Sarah A Speddy 1/12
Thomas Speddy 3
Wm H Speddy 10


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3465; Folio 87; Page 57;

And the family in 1881

1881 England Census
about Thomas W. Speddy
Name: Thomas W. Speddy
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Step Son
Mother's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 6 Railway Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Printers Labourer Wc

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John R. Bleasdale 15
Francis Marshall 2 grandson
Ellen Nicholson 42
William Nicholson 55
Henry Speddy 22
Nancy Speddy 22
Robert Speddy 14
Thomas W. Speddy 20
William H. Speddy

Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4265; Folio: 66; Page: 13;

Seems as if Nancy had a child before she married Thomas.

Christine

Nancy was Jane Marshall's sister

1871 census

Name: Jane Marshall
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Female
Where born: Skerton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Skerton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Skerton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 57
Household Members: Name Age
Christopher Gudgen 43
Jane Marshall 47
Jane Marshall 16
Mancy Marshall 12 Nancy
Margaret Marshall 10
Robert Marshall 50
Sarah Ann Marshall 8
William Marshall 25


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4230; Folio: 25; Page: 12

Christine

Hilary said Ellen's mother was Elizabeth and her father was Henry. I dont know if that is correct. Where did the info come from?
Huia.

Hi Huia,

I think she was working from another Speddy family who they thought Ellen belonged to. This other family had children Frank age 7 and John age 9 in 1891, but Ellen couldn't have belonged to them as both Franks birth and Ellens were in the same qtr but not same page no.

Maybe I have gone off completely wrong, the only way to be sure is to get Ellen's birth cert.

Christine

Yes, it is confusing when people take things from censuses without seeing the original. A b cert would be very helpful. I certainly dont rely on things I find on the internet. I check things out at the LDS with microfiche of the 1891 census (the book was photographed, so is 'original') or films which I have ordered in, once again photos of the original, or I get certs.
Huia.

Nudged for Julie

Christine

Hi everyone, sorry for the delay in replying. Was waiting to hear back from the lady I am trying to help. I have told her she needs to get the birth cert. for this Ellen. Not sure she is following the right family. She is saying about some link with Wales but there is another Ellen Maud Speddy on free bmd born in 1909 in Anglesey. Still can't make out where she is on 1891 census, unless it is Eleanor. All her info on 1891 seems to fit.
Thanks everyone for trying, will get back to this if she gets her birth cert.
Hilary. xx