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Help on 1891 census, please.

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Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 06:59

I can't find Ellen Maud Speddy on 1891 census. Her mother, Elizabeth died in 1886. Her father, Henry on 1891 census with 2 sons as a boarder. There is talk of Ellen being in an orphanage.
Ellen was born in 1884 Scotforth, Lancashire. Can someone help to find her please.
Thanks Hilary.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Mar 2008 07:31

I haven't found her, but do you have her birth cert and know that she actually belongs to this family because the son Frank age 7 in 1891 was registered the same qtr and year as Ellen but they aren't the same page no so therefore I would presume they weren't twins.

Christine

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 07:34

Hi Christine, I am looking for someone else & that is the info she gave me. Can find her on 1901 census, aged 17 as a servant.
hilary.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Mar 2008 07:36

I found her in 1901 also, so I suppose if they haven't got the birth cert, that is the way to go.

Christine

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 07:38

I will have to ask. Even if she does'nt belong to this family, still can't find her on 1891 census. Thanks for looking anyway.
Hilary.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 07:49

I have just looked for Ellen, Eleanor, Nell, Nellie, Nelly, Maud with the surname Spe*, b 1884 + or - 3 yrs, but no luck.
Huia.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Mar 2008 07:51

No, it doesn't solve it but maybe she was born to an unmarried mother and then the mother married so she is under a different name in 1891.
That happened to a relative of mine and then in the next census she was back to her birth name.

Christine

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 07:53

Bingo! I wondered if I should have had Sp*dy for the surname. I put in just the surname Speddy, y.o.b. 1884 +/- 3 yrs and it came up with a list which included Eleanor aged 7 in Lancaster, Lancaster.
Huia.

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 07:55

I will ask her, as I think she has her marriage cert. Will see if her father's name is on that. I also tried different variations of her name.
Thanks everyone for looking.
Hilary

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 07:57

Where is she Huia.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 07:58

Now you just need somebody to look at the image.
Huia.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 08:00

Go to Records, then click on 1891 census, then type Speddy into the surname box and 1884 into the y.o.b with +/- 3 yrs. It brings up a list, among which you should find Eleanor.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 08:08

Also on the list for those b 1881-87 were Jane 5 (possibly mother died giving birth to her?), Frank 7, John R. 9, William H. 10.
I dont guarantee these are all in the one family.
You could look for older children by putting in a different b year, or making it +/- 10 yrs.
Good luck.
Huia.

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 08:08

Found her on Records but blowed if I can find her on Ancestry.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 08:13

At least her surname wasnt Smith. That would have been impossible.
Huia.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Mar 2008 08:32

She certainly doesn't come up on Ancestry.
The Frank and John R are in one family and Jane And William H in another, so where is Eleanor?

Christine

Hilary

Hilary Report 20 Mar 2008 08:41

Sorry, will have to go, got to go to work. Will look in later.
Thanks Hilary.

ChristineinPortugal

ChristineinPortugal Report 20 Mar 2008 08:43

Found her at last, Eleanor Sheddy

1891 England Census
about Eleanor Sheddy
Name: Eleanor Sheddy
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Lancaster, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Lancaster
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Lancaster
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lancaster
Sub-registration district: Lancaster
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Sheddy 7
Beatrice Tyson 2
Isabella Tyson 10
Jane Tyson 36
John Tyson 41
John Tyson 9
Robert Tyson 13
Sarah A M Tyson 11
William S Tyson 5


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3464; Folio 91; Page 23

Christine

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 08:46

If I had the time I could look at all the microfiche for Lancaster/Lancaster to find the families, but it would be a big job and I generally go to town only once a week, the LDS rooms are only open in the mornings 10-12 (well evening as well but I have choir practice) and I have a lot of other research to do.
You need somebody who has spare credits on this site to look at the image. I have never bought any.
Huia.

Huia

Huia Report 20 Mar 2008 08:48

Ah, she is under a different surname on Ancestry.
I wonder if Jane Tyson is an aunt?
Huia.