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Hi can anyone help me please?

I have found my great grandfather as a chil with his parents in 1871 & 1881 but they all dissappear in 1891.
My gr grandfathers name was William Lovely (1869). 1871 He is with his parenta William(1835) & Mary at Pan bank South Shields. In 1881 He is with His Parents William & Hannah (mothers name Mary Hannah) at 11 Todds court South Shields.
I know my Great grandfather married Alice Middleton in 1891 I can't find him at all on 1891 census but his parents can't be found either.
I've picked William (1869) back up on 1901 census with Alice at Palmerstone Street South Shields. But theres still no trace of his parents.

Does anyone have any ideas? I cant find a death for the older William & I know Mary Hannah didn't die until 1913.

1901?

Name: William Denham Lovely
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 58
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Lovely 38
Elizabeth Lovely 8
Gladys Ruth Lovely 1
Rebecca J S Lovely 11
William Denham Lovely 38
William Durham Lovely 14

1891 England Census
about William D Lovely
Name: William D Lovely
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Alice
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Alice Lovely 28
Alice M M Lovely 6
Elizabeth D Lovely 20
Josephine Lovely 8
Rebecca I J Lovely 1
William D Lovely 28
William D Lovely 4

Don't think it's either of them unless they had kids before marriage

William Lovely 1891 Apr-May-Jun South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear


Alice Middleton 1891 Apr-May-Jun South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
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Alice Ainsley 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear


Alice Elizabeth Ainsley 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear


Elizabeth Harrison 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear


Thomas Henry Lewis 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear
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William Denham Lovely 1882 Jan-Feb-Mar South Shields Durham, Tyne and Wear

Thanks for the replies but thats not him. That Willaim is one of his cousins.
I really can't think where they could be!
My William was William Wilson Lovely (1869) his children were George 1894 James 1896 & John 1900.
William (1869) 's father was also william!(1835)
As William (1869) married in 1891 I'm assuming they could be on honeymoon somewhere when 1891 census was taken but I don't know whats happened to his parents William & Mary Hannah, they seem to have dissappeared from 1881.
Thanks for looking

Yes Linda thats My great grandparents marriage. William Lovely & Alice Middleton 1891.
Do you have any ideas where he or is parents may have been when census was taken?

Do you know what Date William and Alice got married?
the 1891 census was taken on the 5th of April. That way we know wether to look for William alone or with Alice

1901 possible for mary/Hannah??

Name: Mary H Lovley
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: South Shields
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: South Shields
ED, institution, or vessel: 54
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 114
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Lovley 21
Mary H Lovley 66

Mary is a Widow and Annie daughter domestic servant

I don't have their marriage cert yet, but I do know they married 25/6/1891 at Holy Trinity so they cant have been on honeymoon as I thought that may have been an explanation.
Thank you Linda

1901
Alice Lovely Wm abt 1873 Newcastle, Northumberland, England Wife South Shields,

Thanks Linda
Yes thats Mary Hannah. I was just about to add a post giving the rest of the childrens names when I noticed you'd found her.
Thank you
I've been going round in circles trying to find her.
You seem to be better at this than me.

Yes Jim thats the right Alice
Thank you

Can't find a death for William senior though :(

Me neither
I wonder if I should be looking for Mary as a widow in 1891 also.
Thans for all your help

1881 for ref


Name: Hannah Lovely
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: So Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Westoe
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address: Pan Bank
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Annie Lovely 1
Geo. Lovely 10
Hannah Lovely 38
Stephen Lovely 14
Thomas Lovely 8
William Lovely 41
Wm. Lovely 11

Thats the right family in 1881
i can't find any of them in 1891

Thats the right family in 1881
I cant find any of them in 1891

1891

Name: Stephen Lovely
Age: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: South Shields, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Westoe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Marks
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
ED, institution, or vessel: 25a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sarah Lovely 24
Sarah Lovely 3
Stephen Lovely 23
Stephen Lovely 5/12
Wm Lovely 5

only one I can find so far

I've just found Stephen aswell Linda.
Thank you for taking the time to help me.