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Can anyone tell me where MESTHUM Surrey is near pl

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gemqueen

gemqueen Report 21 Feb 2008 21:38

I have googled it and it's not come up but Mertsham has. Is it the same place. I have found a family name with this place for mid 1600's and looking to see if relevant or not.
Thanks
Di

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Feb 2008 21:44

well I googled
Mesthum surry 1600
and it gave me merstham.....which is Redhill
surry

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 21 Feb 2008 21:49

Kemp - Thank you. Don't know the area but will now look to see how far away from family previously located this is.
Di

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Feb 2008 21:50

uuuummm....not sure if they would be the same place ...but I,m looking at a website about
Merstham ...trying to get more info
do u have anymore clues

Sue C

Sue C Report 21 Feb 2008 21:58

Where were the family previously located?

Live fairly close to Merstham Surrey so may be able to help with the area.

Sue

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 21 Feb 2008 22:06

East Sheen/Mortlake area. I have hit a brick wall with the name Stanford pre 1767. So using logic (haha) thought I'd look around Surrey to see if other places where there are some of the family name were nearby. Wandsworth is looking possible.
Thanks to both of you
Di

KempinaPartyhat

KempinaPartyhat Report 21 Feb 2008 22:22

Look try this website coz it shows in their history how this part of surry and london were linked !!!

well you know what I mean ...may help
merstham.co.uk

Sue C

Sue C Report 21 Feb 2008 23:10

Sorry.....East Sheen/Mortlake or Wandsworth not that close to Merstham.

Sue

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 22 Feb 2008 00:14

How about Merton?

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Feb 2008 09:31

Thank you all, will now try and look at Merton and Mertsham and see if there is any link there.

Paul.
Thanks again for your suggestion. We will have to stop meeting on here.Lol.
Di

:) still smiling :)

:) still smiling :) Report 22 Feb 2008 09:44

hi gemqueen,

my family have lived in/ around Merstham for 150 years. it's not far from Redhill. and is on the main road between croydon and redhill. i live about 20 mins drive from there. hope you find what you need.
lee.

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 22 Feb 2008 09:51

Lee
Thank you. I'm determined to find earlier rels.
Di

Nicola

Nicola Report 22 Feb 2008 22:36

could Mitchum be your place?
Not so far from wandsworth

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 23 Feb 2008 11:14

The following is taken from a history of Crawley and Horsham Hunt that was written in 1965:

Foxhunting in Sussex probably had its origin in the 17th century, when the Duke of Richmond formed the Old Chariton Hunt, taking in an enormous territory which was finally divided up between the Goodwood Hunt and Colonel Wyndham's. Later on that Jorrocks-like character, Colonel Joliffe, Master of the Merstham Hunt, used to bring his hounds periodically to the Sun Inn at Crawley, to draw the Cuckfield and Bolney country. These hounds were given up in 1835, whereupon Mr. Henry Lee Steere, turned his harriers into foxhounds, hunting the "forest" country north of Horsham till about 1842, his son subsequently establishing the Warnham Staghounds. In 1842, Mr. Charles Bethune bought Mr. Steere's hounds with the help of a committee. and hunted the country as far as West Grinstead and Dial Post, south of which the "Findon" country was part of Mr. Napper's vast territory, which included most of the present Southdown and Chiddingfold. Mr. Napper's kennels were at Billingshurst, and Mr. Bethune's at Crawley. Foxes were none to numerous.

In 1851, Mr. F. Stanford succeeded Mr. Bethune, the hounds now being kennelled at Warninglid. This good sportsman's sixteen-season Mastership does not seem to have been a particularly happy one. The support accorded him being far from commensurate with his own efforts to show sport. Subscriptions were far short of expenses, and still more unfortunate, vulpicide was rife among the keepers. Eventually the Master made his weight felt, and a Committee, under the Chairmanship of Lord Sheffield. was appointed to regulate the finances of the Hunt. Subscriptions then rose to over £1,000 a year, Mr. W. F. Hubbard proving a very energetic Secretary, his father and Mr. Peters being the biggest subscribers. George Loader, who came from the West of England. was put on as huntsman in 1866, and there was a great improvement in sport, though foxes were still being destroyed. Despite many protestations, Mr. Stanford tendered his resignation in 1867, and sold his hounds.

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 23 Feb 2008 12:33

Hi Paul
A lot to digest here and thanks for posting it. Seems F Stanford must have been as useful as a Master as Richard was as a shepherd. The write ups weren't too favourable to him either. I'll look into his details and see if he is linked to the family.
Di

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 23 Feb 2008 12:34

Nicola
Thank you for the suggestion. I'll look at this today.
Di

Paul Barton, Special Agent

Paul Barton, Special Agent Report 23 Feb 2008 13:37

The newspaperdetectives site lists these articles in the Surrey Advertiser:

1864
10-Sep E Stanford Horsham Petty Sessions * Horsham
10-Dec William Stanford The Cattle Corn And Root Show, Broadbridge Horsham

1865
9/12/65 Henry Edward Stanford Dorking, Furious Driving At Westcott, Fined 21s 6d * Dorking
18/11/65 Jane Stanford Bride, Marriage, 16th November, see Moon * Horsham
18/11/65 John Stanford Deceased, Father Of Jane * Horsham
2/9/65 W Stanford Cricket, Chobham Albion v Esher * Esher

1866
23/06/1866 G Stanford Ockley, Cricket, Ockley v Horsham * Horsham
25/06/1866 G Stanford Ockley, Cricket, Ockley v Horsham * Horsham
13/10/1866 William Stanford Veterinarian, Death, Aged 67, 29th September, * Esher

1867
25/05/1867 G Stanford Godalming v Horsham, Cricket Horsham
30/03/1867 Misses Stanford Guildford, The Proposed Church In Stoke Guildford
06/07/1867 Stanford Southern Counties Association Eatons, Ashurst Hurstpierpont

1872
30/03/1872 A Stanford Richmond, Meeting Of The Select Vestry Richmond
28/09/1872 E Stanford Cranleigh, The Close Of The Cricket Season And The Annual Dinner Cranleigh
06/04/1872 Maria Stanford Notice To Creditors Of William Stanton Unknown
13/04/1872 Maria Stanford Notice To Creditors Of William Stanton Unknown
07/09/1872 Miss Anne Stanford Death, 30th Aug, Aged 60 Waterden Road Guildford
31/08/1872 Mr J Stanford Committee, Horsham Horticultural And Floricultural Society Unknown
06/04/1872 William Stanford Kingston County Bench, Appointment Of Overseers Esher
22/06/1872 Stanford meeting of Master shoeing Smith's Esher
27/04/1872 Stanford Richmond, Select Vestry Meeting Richmond
28/09/1872 Stanford Esher, Cricket Match Esher
28/09/1872 Stanford Cricket In Middlesex And Surrey, Cranleigh Cricket Club Eleven v Twenty Two The Twenty Two Cranleigh

gemqueen

gemqueen Report 23 Feb 2008 14:11

Hi Paul
Thanks for these. Does this mean I can view these articles online or again is a trip required? I can only assume you are in a centre or record office today too. Thanks for this info. I'm still looking at the previous post info but appreciate the time your'e spending on this.
Di
Found the above website. Now know what I'll be doing the rest of the day.