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thanks Dea,look forward to it,i know your a busy "NANNY"
kind regards Lisaxx

My first instinct is to say Susannah Page - I seem to remember there was another William with a Susan?

However, I need to look into this and be sure what I am telling you is correct.

Can you give me a couple of days to follow it through?

Dea x

hi Dea,was hoping you could take a look if you get a mo.
Elizas son
Robert Wood b1850
married
Annie Marvin(marven)b1853 Hawkwell

Annies father
William Marvin b1813 Rochford
married
Susannah Page b1822 Hockley

iv made contact with a lady ,all the same siblings ect but she shows William married to
Susan Cuthbert
which one do you think is correct.
kind regards Lisaxx

Big and healthy,

He is 5 days old - can lift his head - knock out his dummy and hold his bottle to feed !!!!!!!!!!!

His 'big sister' sticks the dummy in whenever he cries - bless !!

He hasn't quite mastered sleeping yet though !

Dea x

thanks Dea,i'll get on it first thing.hows the new baby getting on? kind regards Lisaxx

Hi Lisa,

Have only got 5 minutes so check these carefully please:

1). I believe the Annie on 1871 you have as a servant is probably correct - Hawkwell is in the reg. district of Rochford.

2). This would be her on 1861:

1861:
Ann Marian (can't remember if the image says Marven or Marvin but it is her!)
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: William
Mother's Name: Susannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Hawkwell, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Hawkwell
Ecclesiastical parish: Rochester
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Rochford
Sub registration district: Rochford
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members: Name Age
James Cleghorn 17
Ann Marian 8
Charles Marian 1
Henry Marian 6
Michael Marian 18
Samuel Marian 19
Sarah Marian 10
Susan Marian 4
Susannah Marian 39
William Marian 48




Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 1085; Folio: 63; Page: 7; GSU roll: 542750.
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This is the most probable for her birth:

Births Jun 1852
MARVEN Ann Rochford 4a 154
(please check image as ist digit may be a 9?? - not very clear).

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Her parents marriage:

Marriages Dec 1839


MARVEN William Rochford 12 405
PAGE Susannah Rochford 12 405

Dea x

hi Dea,im back from Spain and rareing to go!!if you're not too busy with your new grandson could you have a look at this for me?
i got Robert Hy Woods birth cert,it says his mother was Annie Wood formerly Marvin.Although i have found her on many census records after her marriage to Robert Hy,(on each record it says she was born in Hawkwell,Essex.) i cant find her birth,the only Annie Marvin i can find who fits was born in Rochford(abt 1 1/2 miles from Hawkwell)
iv also found what i THINK is her working as a servant born abt 1852 Rochford,Essex.working in Kingston on Thames(1871 census).
im sure its the same girl (my gggrandmother)
would be gratefull if you could take a look & maybe shed some light on the different birthplaces.
kind regards Lisaxx P.S iv also found her birth (1853) and death 27 Oct 1916 (14 days after her son William Charles died in the Great War) on familysearch.org

Hi Lisa,

You are supposed to be on holiday !!!!!!!!!!!

Can't resist can you?

Haven't done much recently as my grandson is soon to arrive - his mother has been having problems so I am on permanent 'washing, ironing and looking after grand-daughter' duty.

He will probably be arriving by caesarean on Wednesday!.

I will see what I can find for you when I get a minute.

Enjoy your holiday and come back with a 'healthy brown glow' !!

Speak soon,

Dea x

hi Dea,got some news,recieved birth cert of William Charles Wood ,son of Robert Wood.His mother was Annie Marvin!! Another line to follow! You said you had "Lots more info" re Eliza & her son Robert,although im on my hols i do have access to a pc & would love to hear your info.hope to speak soon.awaiting your email,kind regards Lisaxxx

Hi Dea,im going to Fengeurola ,Costa Del Sol,bout 20 mins from Malaga.we fly at 7.30 this evening.
although im gonna miss my tree when im gone(sad eh!)im looking forward to some well deserved SUN!!
any info on antthing you've found(you said there was lots moree) kind regards Lisa

I used to work in Spain - I LOVE it!! - which part are you going to?

Buen viaje !!

Dea x

hi Dea ,yes i got them,thanks,im off to Spain tomorrow ,2 weeks,hope to speak when i get back,kind regards Lisaxxx

You have to have the 'knack' !!!!

Seriously though,

I went to the census first and decided approx when they would have married (early 1880's)

I looked for the obvious first on FreeBmd - putting in both names - no results

Then I checked back on census and found where their children were registered - 'Dunmow' !!

As they always seem to have lived in that same area, it was probable that the marriage would be registered there! so I then searched putting in that reg. district on both names individually.

There was a William French reg Dunmow 4a 649 and there was a Rebecca Wood - same quarter, also Dunmow but 4a 619.

It then becomes obvious that one of them has been mistranscribed so I went and looked at both the images - William's was correct and Rebecca's actually said 649 - the same as William.

As I said, - 'easey peasey' (when you know how!

Dea x

P.S. - Did you see the details I posted above about a possible marriage for your Eliza?

Dea x

come on Dea ,whats ya secret,i hunted for ages trying to find that marriage,their on different pages & everything,howd ya do it??? im impressed!!!
kind regards Lisa

Good morning Lisa!

Well, an 'easy peasy one' at last !

The marriage:

William French + Rebecca Wood:

April/May/June Quarter 1881.

Reference Dunmow 4a 649.

Dea x

hi Dea,got a problem,iv been looking for the marriage of Rebeckah Wood & William French,found william i think
1887 o/n/d william french,braintree,4a,915,but others on page not rebeckah,1 other male 1 female,could you take a look regards Lisaxx

Possible marriage for Eliza:

Marriages Mar 1865 - NB This was a second marriage for Josiah !

>>>>>Brewer Josiah Dunmow 4a 407
>>>>>Wood Eliza Dunmow 4a 407
Overall Elizabeth Dunmow 4a 407
Whybrow Peter Dunmow 4a 407
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Her age is a bit out on 1871 but comes back to the correct age in 1881:

1871:
Eliza Biewer
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Josiah
Gender: Female
Where born: Felstead, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Felstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Dunmow
Sub registration district: Stebbing
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 51
Household Members: Name Age
Eliza Biewer 45
Henry Biewer 20
Josiah Biewer 51


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1703; Folio: 68; Page: 8; GSU roll: 830750.

Source Information:

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1881:
Eliza Brewer
Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Josiah
Gender: Female
Where born: Felstead, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Felstead
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Grampions Farm House
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Dunmow
Sub registration district: Stebbing
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age

Eliza Brewer 50
Henry Brewer 27
Josiah Brewer 63

all born Felstead



Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 1812; Folio: 66; Page: 16; Line: ; GSU roll: 1341437.

Dea x

When it sayschristened at "indipendent Bocking ,what does it mean?
regards Lisaxx

Hi Dea,think i'v found Robert in Great Dunmow Workhouse(poor thing)on the 1961 census,although it says he's from Felstead.
He joined the army in 1863 so i cant seem to find him again until 1881 when he was married with kids to a lady from Hawkwell.(Annie)
His mother Elizs however is much more elusive,cant seem to find her after 1861 when she was living with the "wrights"
any sighn of new baby yet?
kind regards Lisaxxx

You guys are going like hot cakes! Well done. I'm fascinated.

Ozi.