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Hiya trying to find Morton Ashton Whitlark c. 1897 London moved to Australia in 1913 served in the military. Was returned to Australia in 1919 then nothing! he was still alive at the time of his fathers death in 1936 but can't find him married or dead after this!

For ref, this is the dad's death in NSW?

16848/1936
WHITLARK JOHN ASHTON
father MICHAEL MORETON
mother SARAH
district RANDWICK


The surname Whitlark doesn't appear in Australian white pages at present:

http://www.whitepages.com.au/wp/initResSearch.do

Did he have siblings?

That is the only Whitlark death in NSW. Do you know when/where his mother died?


Marriages Dec 1892
Bell Matthew Denny Brentford 3a 136
? Horsfall Mabel Garnett Brentford 3a 136
Whitlark John Ashton Brentford 3a 136
? WISE Ada Emily Brentford 3a 136

hiya yes! I just received the birth cert for his death today from australia. I thought it might give me some clues but doesn't just to say morton ashton was 40 in 1936 and still alive (his daughter who had died was on as deseased)

I see Morton was out here with his father John Ashton Whitlark.

Death
John Ashton Whitlark
F-Michael Moreton Whitlark
M-Sarah
1936 Randwick

There is a request for assistance for Ashton Moreton Whitlark on this site but it has not been opened yet ,you can request for it to be opened,

http://naa12.naa.gov.au/scripts/Items_listing.asp?S=1&F=1&O=0&T=I&C=3
Cheers Sue

morton ashton had one sibling phyllis lilian whitlark c. 1902 but she died at some point between 1921 and 1936 as she is the one who is deseased.

I also can't find a death for her she was travelling to Australia to see her parents when she drowned. She was married so would have been phyllis waston-wood or phyllis wood at the time of her death.

In 1924 morton applied for assistance from the Australian Military I think this is when his sister died.

1911, for info:

WHITLARK ADA F 1874 37 Chelmsford Essex
WHITLARK MORTON 1897 14 Chelmsford Essex
WHITLARK PHYLLIS 1903 8 Chelmsford Essex


but father not in household ...

Phyllis doesn't seem to have married or died in NSW?

-- Oops, cross-posted, you've clarified.

I think his mother ada emily wise/whitlark returned to london in 1924 but in 1936 census she was in lilli pilli australia no idea where she died there or here? check all UK death records but can't see her

No death in NSW for an Ada with parents Joseph and Eliza that seems to match -- Ada in 1891 in Brentford:

Joseph G Wise 53
Eliza Wise 46
Annie Wise 21
Ada Wise 17
Joseph G Wise 11
Lillian A Wise 7
Lizzie Burge 46
John King 21

Births Sep 1873
WISE Ada Emily Brentford 3a 69


Phyllis, for info:

Marriages Jun 1919
Whitlark Phyllis L Wood Ipswich 4a 2533
Wood Douglas H W Whitlark Ipswich 4a 2533

You do know of Phyllis's son? Maybe you would explain your relationship to the Whitlarks so we know better what you know. ;)

Births Jun 1921
Watson-Wood Douglas H Whitlark Ipswich 4a 1933
Wood Douglas H Whitlark Ipswich 4a 1933

Is this person related to Phyllis's husband? I can't find a birth to match.

Name: Tony Douglas H Watson-Wood / Tony Douglas H Watson
Birth Date: 19 Feb 1921
Death Registration Month/Year: Jul 2000
Age at death (estimated): 79
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Inferred County: West Midlands
Register number: D60A
District and Subdistrict: 0771D
Entry number: 261


Or this one?

Births Jun 1929
Watson-Wood Peter C Peyton Watford 3a 1419

Ada returned to England in 1936

Name: Mrs A E Whitlark
Birth Date: abt 1903
Age: 33
Port of Departure: Brisbane, Australia
Arrival Date: 31 Dec 1936
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Fremantle, Colombo, Port Said, Toulon, Villefranche and Gibraltar
Ship Name: Orontes

Whoops wrong year of birth,do you know who this is.
Ok just had a look at the original and her age is 63 not 33 and her address that she is going to is
53 Argyle Rd,W13

Aha! so not drowned en route?

Oh, no, oops, that was Phyllis ...

hiya my grandfather was douglas hamilton watson-wood c. 1921

His mum and dad Douglas Harold Watson-Wood c. 1885
Mum Phyllis Lilian Whitlark c. 1902. Died at sea around 1924. no records found of the death.

Phyllis Mum Ada Emily Wise c. 1873 married John Ashton Whitlark c. 1869.

They moved to Australia in 1913. They had 2 children Phyllis and Morton Ashton Whitlark c. 1897.

Morton Ashton and John Ashton joined the Australian Military together on the same date at the same place in 1915.

They were both returned to Australia in 1919.

No record of Morton Ashton after this date.

Ada Emily and John lived in Lilli Pilli NSW until 1936. He died in march 1936. I don't know if Ada stayed or went home to London. Can't find a death record for her here or in Australia.

So, I have no death record for Phyllis Watson-Wood or Wood, died at sea.
No death record for Ada Emily Whitlark.
No records of anything for Morton Ashton Whitlark although he was alive at the time of his fathers death in 1936??

They can't have all disappeared?

Sue -- Can you see the image? That's just too coincidental - the name and date.

Ada would have been 63ish. Any chance of a mistranscription?

Sophie - my money is on that AE Whitlark returning to England in 1936 being your Ada.

That means scouring the untranscribed images at Ancestry for her death between 1936 and 1984.

http://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=8966

Or waiting for Ancestry to transcribe deaths for that period, which shouldn't be long now.

I saw that record for ada returning I assume that must be her there aren't many whitlarks going to Oz. I wondered if her dob is 1873 they mixed up the 1903? or she just looked good for her age??

Just on a side note, Sophie -- is Whitlark now an extinct name in England?

There are two births in 1945, sisters, in Yeovil district. Both girls. The lastest male marriage is the matching 1945 marriage in Bournmouth - oops, no, there is one in 1969, but there seem to be no births to that marriage.

Just curious since I have one -- Rushland, which became extinct in England around the two sons of my grx4 grandfather Rushland died childless in the early 1800s.

Hi

Just updated my post the age has been mistranscribed,she is down as 63

Cheers Sue

Re dob for AE Whitlark - the record would likely state an age rather than a DOB -- 63 could have been misread or mistranscribed as 33. I don't have access to Ancestry UK deluxe or I'd look -- hopefully Sue will! If it does say 33, it could still have been mistranscribed into the passenger list, I would think.


edit - Just saw your correction, Sue; good stuff!

how did you know what address she was going to? Argyle Road is in ealing london and its still there! how do I find out who was living there? I think I have to look at the census or something

You're all so clever!