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Good evening, Everyone, where is the best and cheapest route to getting birth, death and marriage certificates?? many thanks Nicola

hello quoy

have you been to golders green crem it is a loverly place to be resting especily in spring as it is covered in crocus

my parents are there

sally w

Quoy

What a fascinating uplifting story.

You give us all hope who are stuck firmly in a rut.

Simon

Quoy


Thank you for posting this update.


you've certainly found out a lot!


I'm so glad for you.




sylvia

Ronald Frederick William Holding aka
Ronald Frederick Holding Woodward aka
Ronald John Woodward

final resting place
Died 1st August 1950
cremated 5th August 1950 at Golders Green Crematorium
ashes scattered in garden of remembrance

Contact made with his step niece who has fond memories of Uncle Ronnie
and photographs.

Ronalds son /stepsons possible daughter is a member of genes but has not opened her mail.

192 here I come

Happy New Year Quoy!

How is the search progressing? Have you managed to achieve your goals?

MB

ahhhh the curse of the double barrelled name.

I had a headache with my great grandfather, who was firmly behind a brick wall for more than 7 years, until I discovered a letter he wrote in a newspaper in 1920 which led me to an address, which in turn revealed he used several names (never his birth one), married 3 times at least bigamously, and had 22 children (those are just the ones I know of) - Just think of the descendants with that lol.

One of his made up names was double barrelled and oh my what problems I had finding all descendants (I got there in the end though).

please help if you can
has to be by pm as person may be still living

thank you

Further to the 1911
this might be how Ron and Emily met

Ron was a merchant seaman around the time of his first marriage 1912 to 1918

Thanks for asking Moody Blue

have located a marriage ( i think )for the son of Emily Gertrude living in the same address in 2002 as he was in 1972 when he registered his mums death .

I am waiting for the certificate to arrive to confirm

My ultimate goals are
1 to get a photograph of Ronald in his latter years
2 to stand by his grave and say " Ha , found you"

any joy?

Thanks Moody Blue

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Emily Gertrude Woodward
Name: Emily Gertrude Woodward
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Derby
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8b
Page: 2_2



1901 England Census
about Isobel Woodward
Name: Isobel Woodward
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation: Daughter
Father's name: William G Woodward
Mother's name: Margt J Woodward
Gender: Female
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Walton On The Hill
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:99 Esmond St

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: West Derby
Sub-registration district: Walton
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 208
Household Members:
Name Age
William G Woodward 37Cashier in Corn Merchants Office
Margt J Woodward 35
Margt J Woodward 14
Annie Woodward 13
Emily Woodward 10
Isobel Woodward 7
Ethel Woodward 4
Gladys Woodward 2
William G Woodward 6 Months



1911 census transcription details for: 6 Valentine Grove Everton Liverpool
National Archive Reference:
RG14PN22516 RG78PN1325 RD455 SD8 ED3 SN269

Reg. District: West Derby Sub District: South Everton
Parish: Everton Enum. District: 3
Address: 6 Valentine Grove Everton Liverpool
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born
HETHERINGTON, Ernest Head Married M 26 1885 Mariner Able Seamen Lancashire Lpool
HETHERINGTON, Margaret Wife Married
1 years F 24 1887 Lancashire Lpool
WOODWARD, Isobel Sister In Law Single F 17 1894 Tobbaco Factory Packer Lancashire Lpool
WOODWARD, Emily Sister In Law Single F 19 1892 General Servant Domestic Lancashire Lpool

so
next
trace Emily Gertrude Woodward 's family to try and get a lead on her son

Today Ronalds death certificate arrived
1st August 1950 Ronald John Woodward ,57 years
37a Mill Lane Hampstead refrigeration engineer
Informant E G Woodward ,widow of the deceased ,in attendance 37a Mill Lane

i have found R F W Holding sailing form liverpool to new york in 1917 just 5 year after his marrage was alone no the ADRIATIC owned by White Star

Quoy


that's great!!



sylvia

Thats good info Quoy. 20years now solved.}}

1972 Will indexes arent online,,perhaps someone lives near a probate office centre where free public searches can be made.
Birmingham have one.London.York,Leeds and few others spread about.~~

Certificates arrived today . I have written them as they appear
The bugger ,no wonder I could not find him he changed his name to Ronald John Woodward.
Marriage
1st March 1950 by License Hampstead
Ronald Frederick William Holding Woodward otherwise Woodward age 56 widower
Refrigeration Engineer 37a Mill Lane nw6 father Ronald Bentham Holding
Emily Gertrude Woodward spinster 37a Mill Lane father William George Woodward
witness Mr.J Palmer and W Clark


Death Certificate Emily Gertrude Woodward otherwise Emily Gertrude Holding Woodward maiden name Woodward 4th August 1972 born 15th December 1891 West Derby
occupation and usual address
Widow of Ronald John Woodward otherwise Ronald Frederick William Holding Woodward Refrigeration Engineer
Camden Home Lewisham
informant Son (will not put his name as may be still alive).

Have found a death for Ronald John Woodward and sent for certificate

Now I have to find where Ronald is buried and most important
Where his son is .

So Where do I apply to for Wills hoping that Emily left everything to her son

Quoy

Have you looked for any connecting trees on Ancestry to Emily?with possible chance there could be known information>