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On Helens Marriage cert it states that her parents were Patrick and Mary Reilly but no info for their own marriage.

Samantha

How old was Nellie when she married?

Which one is my Helen Reilly?

1891
Name: Helen Reilly
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relationship: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil Parish: Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Eastpark, Gairbraid Street, Maryhill near Glasgow
ED: East Park Home for Infirm Children
Page: 4 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1891_221

OR

1901 Living at 136 Reid Street, Glasgow

Annie Reilly abt 1871 Coatbridge, Lanarkshire Daughter In Law Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire

Catherine Reilly abt 1830 Ireland Sons Wife Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire

Helen Reilly abt 1888 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grand Daur (Granddaughter) Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire

Kate Reilly abt 1889 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grand Daur (Granddaughter) Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire

Patrick Reilly (Engine keeper) abt 1861 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Son Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire

Thomas Reilly abt 1812 Ireland Head Glasgow Bridgeton Lanarkshire


1891 Living at 136 Reid Street, Glasgow

Helen Reilly abt 1888 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Grand - Daur (Granddaughter) Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire

Joseph Reilly (Calico print worker) abt 1872 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Son Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire

Patrick Reilly (Chemical labourer) abt 1861 Glasgow, Lanarkshire Son Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire

Thomas Reilly (Chemical labourer) abt 1827 Ireland Head Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire

Catherine Reilly abt 1828 Ireland Wife Glasgow Barony Lanarkshire

Please help

Samantha

Claire
My hat goes off to you, its the correct family i have one of the childrens certs but its so unreadably that i just cant make out the maiden name what so ever.
Ive got a few notes to be taking down now.
Thanks

duplicate post, I'm getting traffic jams!

Hi Samantha

Names are often either written down incorrectly in the first place or mistranscribed at a later date.
I'm not 100% certain on the above but it's the only option that I could find. The places of birth all match as does Thomas being a labourer but the ages differ quite a bit even on the children.

Jane's maiden name will be shown on-
All the children's births
All the children's marriages (assuming in Scotland)
All the children's deaths (assuming in Scotland)
Her death
Thomas's death

You may find that even though you can't read her name on the marriage, once you see it on another document you will know it's the same person.

Note John is a female!

1891 Scotland Census
about Thomas Donachie
Name: Thomas Donachie
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : John
Gender: Male
Where born: Ireland
Registration Number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil Parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 31 Barracks James St
Occupation: Roadman Labourer
ED: 7
Page: 29 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 152
Line: 23
Roll: CSSCT1891_163
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Donachie 32
John Donachie 55
Thomas Donachie 60

Evening Claire
I have the certs and the surname is spelt as Donachie, but there was a rumour that the name did have a double n in it instead of one but as i said all the certs are spelt as Donachie.
James parents were however Thomas and Jane so i have to say it does look promising is there any way we can find out Janes maiden name this is the only thing that i cannot make out.
Samantha

This is looking promising!!!!!!!!

1881 Scotland Census
about James Donnaghie
Name: James Donnaghie
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1872
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thos
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Helensbro, Dunbartonsh
Registration Number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil Parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 24 James St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 9
Page: 45 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 220
Line: 25
Roll: cssct1881_148
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Donnaghie 22
James Donnaghie 9
Jane Donnaghie 42
John Donnaghie 19
Margaret Donnaghie 20
Patrick Donnaghie 7
Thos Donnaghie 50

I wonder if this is James with his parents?

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1871 Scotland Census
about James Donaghue
Name: James Donaghue
Age: 7 mth
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Son
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Helensburgh, Dumbarton
Registration Number: 503
Registration district: Row
Civil Parish: Row
Town: Helensburgh
County: Dumbartonshire
Address: 35 James St
ED: 8
Page: 58 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 245
Line: 22
Roll: CSSCT1871_88
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew Donaghue 13
Ann Donaghue 17
Elenor Donaghue 5
James Donaghue 7 mth
Jane Donaghue 40
John Donaghue 8
Margaret Donaghue 10
Mary Donaghue 15
Thomas Donaghue 45

This is what i have been given but not sure which one is my Helen Reilly,

1891 poss but not showing Helen b,1887

Name: Matilda Reilly
Age: 9
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relationship: Daur (Daughter)
Father's Name: Michael
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 644/6
Registration district: St Rollox
Civil Parish: Glasgow Springburn
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 10 Elmvale St
Occupation: Scholar
ED: 92
Page: 4 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 18
Line: 14
Roll: CSSCT1891_266
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Reilly 35
John Reilly 10
Mary Reilly 7
Matilda Reilly 9
Michael Reilly 52
William Reilly 14


1891
Name: Helen Reilly
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relationship: Patient
Gender: Female
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration Number: 622/1
Registration district: Maryhill
Civil Parish: Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Eastpark, Gairbraid Street, Maryhill near Glasgow
ED: East Park Home for Infirm Children
Page: 4 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 1
Line: 24
Roll: CSSCT1891_221

Samantha

Evening Reg
If you dont mind doing some census look ups for me that would be great.
Do i take it that Helen Reilly was in a childs home because there is two listings for a Helen Reilly.

Samantha

Ok Reg
I said i would let you know what i found and this is it so far
Andrew Donachie born 16th August 1894 Helensburgh
Brother
Patrick Donachie born 12th June 1891 Helensburgh
Sister
Norah Louise Donachie born 27th January 1900 Helensburgh
there is another brother john but have been unable to trace him at the moment.
Andrew Donachie married Nellie Reilly(real name Helen) on 06th October 1913 Helensburgh.

Andrews parents were James Donachie and Elizabeth Donachie (nee Mcdonald) and they married 09th December 1890 Helensburgh.

Helens parents were Patrick Rielly and Mary Rielly (nee Murphy) this is all i have on them at the moment.

James Donachie parents were Thomas Donachie and Jane Donachie but i can not make out her maiden name.

Looks like i may well have some certs to order to find out my information.

Samantha

Dont panic have just found it and now run out of credit so shall continue tomorrow.
Thanks for you help Reg will let you know how i get on

Samantha

Got that but can not find his birth recorded on the register anywhere

Samantha

Andrew & Nellie married 06/10/1913 @ St Josephs R.C. Chapel Helensburgh Andrew was 19 yrs and Helen was 22yrs.

Samantha

Ok Reg
I now have to back down and say a big sorry, your right the marriage cert is correct and looks like i have picked the wrong Andrew but i can not trace the correct Andrew i cant find him anywhere could i have some help please

Samantha

Bernard Donachie born Feb 1930 Helensburgh
Parents
Andrew Donachie born 1893 - 1944
Helen Rielly born 1887 - 1969

Andrews parents
John Donachie
Annie Donachie

This much i do know for sure

Samantha

I do not have my grandfather's birth cert only his death as his only recently passed away.
Andrew Donachie born 1893 Married Helen Rielly born 1887 Andrew died 1944 and Helen died 1969 this is all on the family headstone nan said that Helen was always called Nellie but i didnt know this until after some one had kindly looked up the marriage i have for them that maybe is incorrect as the parents names do not match

Samantha

But its not? Andrews parents were John and Annie not James and Elizabeth, and i have to admit i didnt look at any census i just looked up the birth and marriage on scotlands people so looks like i have gone wrong somewhere

Samantha