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I am still looking for :
the birth details of
Maria Steel, born c1825, Barkby,Leics
are her parents: Ann & James. ?? as I think she may be a sister of Thomas.

Hi Folks

Wow - Just read through & absorbed all the info that you have very kindly found for me!

Have learnt a lot about the 'Steel' family!!!

I now have a few follow on questions (great fun)! :

Thomas Steel born c1832 - I know nothing at all about him - would love to find him in 1961/ 71/ 81 census'.

In 1841 census:
George Illston - I presume is Anns grandfather ( as she is 30 & he is 70) - is a grazier (does he have land?
also, on Anns birth record her father is John Illston & mother is Mary ?

Where are John & Mary in 1841?

In 1851 census:
Henry Bottoms & his family are living with Ann and is described as son-in-law - married to Maria. But Ann doesnt have a daughter Maria (that I know of yet)???
Can anyone find a Maria born to Ann & James Steel? c1825???

Lots of questions - quite intreaging!

All help appreciated. Many thanks.
Gill

And James' christening:
James Steel, 5 July 1806, Barkby. Parents Thomas & Elizabeth.

Also from IGI.
Sarah Steele christened 22 Dec.1829, Barkby. Parents James & Ann.

There's this birth on IGI. It's extracted.
Ann Ilston christened 15 May 1803, Barkby. Parents John Ilston & Mary.
Also the marriage.
Ann Illston and James Steell married 20 Feb. 1828, Barkby.

Oh, I think that marriage would be it, Andy!
It explains the name of the person who Ann was living with on the 41 census. It was transcribed Hstor but I read it as Illston.

From the Leicester & Leicestershire Marriage Index

James Steell m Ann Illston 1828 Barkby

Andy

From burial transcriptions for Barkby

James Steele buried 29 Jul 1838 aged 33

Andy

The only Steel death in the Barrow-on-Soar district 1837-1841

James Steel
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Barrow Upon Soar
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 15
Page: 22

Andy

Elizabeth's birth?

Elizabeth Steel
Year of Registration: 1838
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Barrow Upon Soar
County: Leicestershire
Volume: 15
Page: 36

Andy

1841

Ann Steel
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Barkby
Hundred: East Goscote
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Registration district: Barrow upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Syston
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Hstor 70
Ann Steel 30
Elisabeth Steel 2
Mary Steel 7
Sarah Steel 11
Thomas Steel 9

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 592; Book: 5; Civil Parish: Barkby; County: Leicestershire; Enumeration District: 1; Folio: 6; Page: 7; Line: 6; GSU roll: No GSU Number listed for piece: 592.

Mary's age is wrong but the children are right.
George Ilston (I would say) is head of the household, Ann has been put as lodger which has then been crossed out (as enumerators were supposed to put professions :-))

Andy

Possible 1841?
Brook St., Barkby, Leicestershire
George Ilston, 70, graizor?
Ann Steal, 30, (lodger, crossed out)
Sarah, 11
Thomas, 9
Mary, 7
Elizabeth, 2
All born in county.

Sorry Gillian, I had to go out...
Regards Vera

There's another family at the same address. For the first person it says head but it also says son-in-law. (Ann's son-in-law? Did she have a daughter Maria?)

Henry Bottoms, head, son-in-law, 29, blacksmith
Maria, wife, 26
Amelia, dau, 6
Wm., son, 4
Charlotte, dau, 11 months
All born St. Mary, Leicester.

Normally I type out the census info from the original. I didn't do it this time, I cheated because the writing was so bad, but here goes:
1851 census
New Bridge St., St. Mary, Leicester
Ann Street, head, widow, 50, laundress
Sarah, dau, 21, dressmaker
Thos., son, 19, labourer
Mary, dau, 15, glove stitcher
Elizabeth, dau, 12, glove stitcher
All born Barkby.

Margaret
Just a thought.........

Does it say on the census , Thomas' relationship to the head?

Is he her son or not?
Gill

Having looked more carefully, I really think this is MY 'Steele' family in 1851
Ann Sheell 50
Elizabeth Sheell 12
Mary Sheell 15
Sarah Sheell 21
Thos Sheell 19

I have an Ann born c1800 making her 50ish in 1851 - ok so far.
I have an Ann born c1826 making her 25 (if this is the correct family, I guess she would be married & not on this census) and a Sarah c1829 making her 22ish - still ok and a Mary born c1836 making her 15 - looking good! and an Elizabeth c1839 making her 12 - so all fits!

Except -
I have no knowledge of a Thomas at all. (yet).
Do we know anything about Ann's husband at all - who he was? where he was from?

Thank you Margaret - this looks quite promising now.

Do you know the street address? & occupations - at all?

Thanks again
Gill

Mistranscribed as Sheel in 1851.

1851 England Census
about Elizabeth Sheell
Name: Elizabeth Sheell
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1839
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Barkby, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Leicester St Mary
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Leicester
Sub-registration district: West Leicester
ED, institution, or vessel: 9j
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 30
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Sheell 50
Elizabeth Sheell 12
Mary Sheell 15
Sarah Sheell 21
Thos Sheell 19

Perhaps we can find these same people in 1851??