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14 Jan 2008 04:25 |
Trying to find information about the Middlin family of Sebastapol Victoria Australia. If anyone can help out would be grateful. Kerry Everitt
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Lewella
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14 Jan 2008 04:45 |
What information are you looking for, Kerry. I'm happy to look up the Victorian Indexes for you.
Lew
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Lewella
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14 Jan 2008 04:47 |
Here are some births. Any interest you?
Digger - Great War Index. Victoria 1914-1920
Query ----- Surname : middlin (15 matches) Event : b (243060 matches)
Total matching records: 8 --------------------
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Chas Robt Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Ernt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Olive Myrtle BURNSIDE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BALLT Death Place: Year: 1917 Reg. Number: 26021
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Constance Maud Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: David Sydney Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Eva Jane CRAFO Age: Age Code: Birth Place: SEBASTOPOL Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 16493
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Doris Annie Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Ernt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Olive Myrtle BURNSIDE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BALLT Death Place: Year: 1915 Reg. Number: 367
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Geoffrey Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Adeline Vera MIDDLIN Age: Age Code: Birth Place: PRAN Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 22238
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Ilma May Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Phillip Chas Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Ada JAMES Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BALLARAT Death Place: Year: 1914 Reg. Number: 9329
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Joyce Isobel Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Wm Stewart Herbt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Violet May WOODS Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BALLT E Death Place: Year: 1920 Reg. Number: 9019
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Ronald Aljo Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Edgar Ernest Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Jean JOLLY Age: Age Code: Birth Place: NEWPORT Death Place: Year: 1916 Reg. Number: 32127
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Thos Ronald Event: B Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: Thos Ernt Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Olive Myrtle BURNSIDE Age: Age Code: Birth Place: BALLT Death Place: Year: 1919 Reg. Number: 24476
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Kerry
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14 Jan 2008 05:25 |
Hi there Lew,
The Geoffrey Middlin born to Adeline Vera Middlin is the father of my sister-in-law who never knew his mother. Obviously he wasn't adopted because when he was married his birth certificate stated his name as Middlin and he had to officially change his name to Davis out of respect for the family that raised him.
Geoffrey comes from the David Sydney Middlin and Eva Jane Crago but everyone that I have either emailed or phone don't know of their existence. Same thing Geoff's children would like to know of any relatives out there.
Yes I am the same Kerry doing the McMillin quite an intriguing family eh.
Many thanks for the information as well they do tie in. Kerry
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Kerry
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14 Jan 2008 05:27 |
Also Lew Adelene did marry a William Robert McCreight Mann, but so far no luck there either and sadly enough Geoff predeceased his mum, so possibly if things were different he may have been able to have contact with her. Kerry
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Lewella
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14 Jan 2008 07:26 |
Kerry, would you believe that one of my disks is now jammed in my computer! I'll get back to you once Dell pays me a little visit to remove same!! grrrr
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Julcoe
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15 Jan 2008 01:10 |
On the Australian Electoral Roll, found the following on David Sydney & Eva Jane MIDDLIN 1903, District of "Ballaarat" Subdistrict of "Ballaarat West" David , moulder, Eva , H/D, at ripon Street, Ballarat
1909 & 1914 District of "Ballaarat" Subdistrict of Sebastopol; David, miner; Eva h/d; at Cheshunt St. Sebastopol
1919, District of "Ballaarat" Subdistrict of Gong Gong; David, Caretaker; Eva h/d also Rubie, h/d at Bolwarrah.
1931 & 1936, District of Corio, Subdistrict of Whittlesea; David, Supt. Forest. M.M.B.W. (?) & Eva H/D at Wallaby Creek. ALSO (same address) Joseph David, Labourer AND Howard Trevean, unenployed, Whittlesea
Joseph & Howard were also listed, 1931,(& 1936) District of Gippsland; Sub-District of Trafalgar; Farmers, at Thorpdale
Hope this helps JulieD
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Julcoe
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15 Jan 2008 01:28 |
ALSO found for Adelene Vera & William Robert MANN 1931 District of Wimmera; Sub- District of Swan Hill William, farmer; Adelene, h/d; at Kooloonong
1936, District of Hume; Sub- District of Albury; William, Station Hand; Adelene, h/d; at Gerogery
ALSO in 1936, District of Balaclava; Sub-district of Caulfield William, no occupation, Adelene, h/d with, MANN, Johnston, Carpenter & Emily Florence, h/d at 10 Cedar Street
The double listing for a year could possable be because they moved, registered in their new district, but hadn't removed themselves from the listing in their old district. ??
There are lots and lots more Middlin's listed. Who else are you looking for?
JulieD
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Kerry
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15 Jan 2008 05:30 |
Thank you Julie for your quick reply, I have been out and have only just checked for any movement. I am just trying to establish the family of Adelene Vera for my sister-in-law and any living relatives of hers so that perhaps she may contact them. Adelene Vera was her grandmother. Adelene Vera's parents were David Sydney and Eva Jane Crago. But living relos seem to not know about David and Eva. Like siblings perhaps of Davids. Have tried ringing many Middlins in the Victorian phone book as well.
As you will note also that Lew was looking up information too, so don't know what you do there as I am very new to this part of Genes even though have been a member for quite some time.
Thank you so much for bothering to look up info for me it is greatly appreciated and I suppose if both are posting here you at least know what each one is doing.
Thanks again Kerry
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Julcoe
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16 Jan 2008 00:53 |
Hi Kerry You probably have some of this info, but I will do it completely, to keep it straight in my head.
Thomas ( or Edward Thomas) MIDDLIN m. 1859 Sarah TREVEAN b~1843 d. 1923 (f) Phillip Trevean (m) Mary Pascoe Children:- Sarah Jane b. 1861 d 1861 2mths Edward Thomas b. 1863 d. 1908 William b. 1865 Charles Henry b. 1866 d. 1867 5mths Mary Ellen b, 1868 m. 1889 Robert Maxwell CLOSE Adeline Jane b. 1869 m. 1897 John PERRY Albert Trevean b. 1871 d. 1905 Bgo m. 1903 Mabel Elizabeth WHEELER b~1879 d. 1953(74yrs) (f) Daniel Benjamin (m) Martha Ann Screech children :- Daniel Thomas Walter b. 1904 d. 1969 & Albert b. 1905 David Sydney b. 1873 d. 1956 Moor. (83yrs) m. 1895 Eva Jane CRAGO b~ 1874 d. 1949 (f) John (m) Jane Pascoe Phillip Charles b. 1875 d. 1937 m. Ada JAMES children:- Ena May b. 1908 d. 1911 (2yrs) & Ilma May b. 1914 Herbert Augustus b 1877 d. 1905 Ball. (28yrs) Ambrose Cuthbert b. 1879 d. 1932 m. Alice BRADBURY Edgar Ernest b. 1882 d. 1964 Fern. (81yrs) m. 1906 Jeanette (?Jane Anne) JOLLY b~ 1882 d. 1944 (62yrs) ? (f) John (m) Jane Wishart children:- ? Albert Edgar Wishart (?b.~ 1907) d. 1984 77yrs m. Beatrice May CLAUSEN :- Maxwell Peter Wishart d. 1941 Mentone Rita Jaenette b. 1908 m. 1932 Kenneth Melville WEIR Frank Trevean b. 1909 Carlton d. 1984 m. 1936 Leila Margaret McNAB Ronald Aljo b. 1916 Newport m. 1941 Gladys WHALEY
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16 Jan 2008 01:19 |
Family of David Sydney MIDDLIN & Eva Jane CRAGO Adeline Vera b. 1898-- (found birth of Alfred Charles 1913 & m. 1913 Francis Peter BURKE ) Child Geoffrey b. 1919 Pran. m. 1927 William Robert McCreight MANN
Clarice Lillian b. 1900 m. 1920 Frederick Archibold PEARCE
Rubie Jane b. 1896 m. 1918 John William KANE
Frank Tamblyn b. 1912 m. 1940 Marjorie J. SAVIGE
Howard Trevean b. 1910 d. 1959 Warr. 49yrs
Joseph David b. 1906 d. 1983 Emol. m. 1937 Edna May ELLIS
Constance Maud b. 1915 m. 1935 Norman C KERR
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Kerry
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16 Jan 2008 03:41 |
You are so good Julie thank you very much. I will jot this information down and look up white pages in Victoria and see if any are still around. So far no success there . Either they don't want to know or know and don't want to tell. But there should be someone out there with a clue.
Take care Kerry
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Julcoe
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16 Jan 2008 03:50 |
Continuing with the Electoral Roll for David's siblings :- But first his mother Sarah 1909, 1914 & 1919 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 141 Humffray St. Home Duteis
Don't have anything on Albert Trevean, but for his son Daniel Thomas Walter :- 1931 & 1936 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Ballarat east; 26 king St; Grocer's Assistant; also Emily Ellen, h/d
Philip Charles 1909 & 1914 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Ballarat West; 508 Errard St; Painter & Ada h/d 1919 with brother Ambrose (no Ada) 1924 & 1931 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 141 Humffray St; Painter and his daughter Ilma May 1936 District of Henty; Sub-district of Brighton; 51 Windermere Cres.; Assistant
Ambrose Cuthbert 1909, District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 141 Humffray St, Carter (with mother) 1914, 1919, 1924 & 1931 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 143 Humffray St., Carter & Alice, h/d
Edgar Ernest & Jeanette 1909 District of Melbourne; Sub-district of Carlton South; 92 Carlton St.; Actor & Jeanette, h/d 1914 District of Melbourne Port; Sub-district of Williamstown North; 5 Albert St; Cable Jointer & Jeanette, h/d 1919 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Gong Gong; School House, Balwarrah, Labourer & Jean h/d
1931, District of Balaclava; Sub-district of Caulfield West; 155 Glen Eira Rd. Mechanic & Jeanette, h/d. plus Frank Trevean, mechanic; Albert Edgar Wishart, Salesman & Rita Jeanette, dressmaker
Albert Edgar Wishart,1936 District of Flinders; Sub-district of Dandenong; Olive gr., Chandler's Rd ; pltry farmer & Enid h/d Frank Trevean, 1936, District of Balaclava; Sub-district of St Kilda Central; 10 Sycamore Gr. , mechanic, also (f) Ernest Edgar, Vocalist & Jeanette, h/d
Adeline Jane & John PERRY 1903 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Ballarat East; Tr?? Engine Driver & Adeline h/d 1909 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Soldier's Hill; 308 McCarthur St ; Adeline Jane, h/d also Adelaide, h/d ; Francis, Sargeant; Robert, Artist & Talbot, Photographer
Mary Ellen & Robert Maxwell CLOSE 1909, District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 91 Bond St, Miner; Mary h/d 1914 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 91 Bond St, Miner; Mary h/d also Adeline Annie, h/d 1919, District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 91 Bond St, Miner; Adeline Annie, h/d 1924, District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 91 Bond St, Miner; Adeline Annie, h/d 1931 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 9 Bond St, Evangelist; & Emmeline Sarah, Evangelist; & Herbert Trevean, Electrician 1931 District of Ballarat; Sub-district of Mt Pleasent; 91 Bond St,Adeline Annie, h/d 1936 District of Bourke; Sub-district of Brunswick West; 25 Sutherland St (no occ. listed) & Emmeline, h/d
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16 Jan 2008 03:52 |
For David & Eva's daughters
Clarice Lillian & Frederick Archibald 1931 District of Balaclava; Sub-district of Caulfield; 78 Alexander St 1936 District of Kooyong; Sub-district of Camberwell; 68 Athelstan Rd, ; Sales Clarice, h/d
Rubie Jane & John William KANE 1924, 1931 & 1936; District of Yarra; Sub-district of Richmond; 5 Blanche St. ; Military Duties; Rubie, h/d
Constance Maud & Norman Cecil KERR 1931 District of Corangamite; Sub-district of Maryborough; 64 Barkly St; Teacher Constance & norman didn't marry until 1932, but I could not find them in 1936
SON:- Frank Tamblyn; 1936, district of Gippsland; Sub-district of Foster; Turton's creek; School Teacher (alone)
This should keep you busy, I hope it helps JulieD
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Lewella
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16 Jan 2008 03:56 |
Did you know about this marriage Kerry?
Digger - Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913
Surname: MIDDLIN Given Names: Adeline Vera Event: M Sex: Spouse Surname/Father: BURKE Spouse Gvn Names/Mother: Francis Peter Year: 1913 Reg. Number: 6602R
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Lewella
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16 Jan 2008 04:03 |
Digger - Marriage Index. Victoria 1921-1942
Query ----- Family Name : mann (395 matches) Given Name : william robert (1343 matches)
Total matching records: 1 --------------------
Family Name: MANN Given Name: Wm Robt Mccreight Spouse Family Name: MIDDLIN Spouse Given Name: Adelene Vera Registration Year: 1927 Registration Number: 1647 Re-registration Year: Event Year: Registration Type: Event: M
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Lewella
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16 Jan 2008 04:07 |
I can't find a death for a Francis Peter Burke, but he may have died in WW1
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Lewella
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16 Jan 2008 04:33 |
Looks like Geoffrey had a little brother who died
Digger - Death Index. Victoria 1921-1985
Surname: MANN Given Names: Thos David Father: Mccreight Wm Robert Mother: Adeline Vera MIDDLIN Death Place: CARLTON Age: Age Code: Year: 1933 Reg Number: 6724 Event: D
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Kerry
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16 Jan 2008 10:34 |
No have only just gotten onto the computer been watching the cricket. I thought that she only married William Robert McCreight Mann. I am simply dumbfounded. Thank you for that. I wonder what will pop up next. I have just gone through my records and Adelene and William married in 1927. Geoffrey was born in 1919. But it would mean that she was only 16 or 17 when she married for the first time. Could that be a possibility and is there a death for Francis Peter Burke? Which would show if it is her.
There was an aunt Adelene Jane but she married someone else, not Burke.
Very strange and thanks for all your good work much appreciated.
Kerry
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Kerry
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16 Jan 2008 10:50 |
Lew, It actually looks like Geoffrey had 2 brothers, one older born in 1913 Alfred Charles the same year that she married Francis Burke, then Geoffrey in 1919 and Thomas David born between 1927 and 1933. I actually thought that he lived longer, maybe I am just confused and shocked by all of this.
Is there any death of Alfred Charles Burke at all?
Many thank once again. I have actually tried a lot of avenues to get information but hit walls, so I am grateful to you.
Kerry
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