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Margaret
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6 Jan 2008 18:04 |
Hi Kevin St Leonards Wallingford 1903 May 11 SIMMONS William Charles 23 years Bach St Johns Rd OTP gas work mechanic s of Thomas Alfred Tailor GILL Emily Caroline 34 years sp Beausheaf Terrace OTP d James Hope these help.If you need further info please ask. I did look quickly at baptisms but did'nt see them in St Leonards.However I have the transcripts for the other churches in Wallingford too. Regards Maggi
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Margaret
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6 Jan 2008 18:11 |
Hi Gill Moss burials in Letcombe Regis 1859 Jan 7 MOSS Charlotte 49 1870 Feb 21 MOSS Edward 67 Regards Maggi
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Gill
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6 Jan 2008 18:16 |
Gosh Maggie, that was quick.
Both of them.....thank you soooo much
appreciated Gill
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Margaret
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6 Jan 2008 19:10 |
KEVIN RE GILL Hi Kevin I found some Gill stuff I couldnt find James Henry Gills marriage in Wallingford but I think he married Emily Chamberlain Dec 1877 Bradfield 2c 781(needs checking!!)Free BMD Emily Carolines age was incorrectly transcribed which threw me a bit.Now I've found her & her siblings all baptised St Leonards Wallingford. They all also say that James Henry was a painter not a plumber!! 1879 Feb 7 Emily Caroline 1881 May 27 Alice Sarah 1882 March 7 Henry(received 8 Nov 1882) 1886 May 2 Walter James 1889 Aug 4 Lily Kate 1890 Oct 12 Daisy Ethel 1895 Sept 8 Nellie Mary First 3 born in Reading Rd,others St Leonards Lane
Burial 1926 Aug 28 GILL Emily 72 years Springdale Burial 1934 Dec 15 GILL James Henry 84 years St Johns Rd Burial 1962 Nov 7 GILL Walter James 76 years of 17, St Johns Terrace
I'll see if I can find anything now for Simmonds Maggi
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Margaret
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6 Jan 2008 20:32 |
KEVIN RE SIMMONS Hi Kevin I looked at censuses & it appears Thomas Alfred Simmons came from Oxford as did his wife Clara. I'm guessing this is probably their marriage Dec 1871 Oxford 3a 1116 If this is correct his wife is Clara Cooper. I did'nt find the baptisms of their eldest children but as you'll see I found a few marriages that gives you some more names. These are the baptisms I did find in St Leonards. 1884 Jan 16 William Charles 4 years 1884 Jan 16 Charles Henry 2 years 1884 Jan 16 Albert All of st Leonards Lane 1888 April 1 Clara 1890 Jan 12 Edmund Anthony 1902 Dec 14 Ernest 43,St Johns Rd privately (Died Dec 1902) ..........................................................................
1904 Feb 5 William Clarence Henry SIMMONS s William Charles gas fitter & Emily Caroline 1, Beansheaf Terrace privately
No further baptisms in St Leonards
Marriages:- 1897 Oct 2 LEWINGTON Jesse 27 bach Wilts Baker s Thomas a blacksmith SIMMONS Edith Clara 24 sp OTP d Thomas Alfred tailor Wit Thomas Alfred Simmons Elizabeth Ellen Simmonds
1897 Oct 27 PRATT William 26 bach W Ticket Examr GWR s James bricklayer SIMMONS Elizabeth Ellen sp St Johns Rd d Thomas Alfred tailor Wit Thomas Alfred Simmons Mary Louisa Simmons Thomas Alfred jnr William Blackwood
1898 Dec 26 O'DONNELL Richard 24 yrs bach St Matthews Redhill Groom s Patrick shoemaker SIMMONS Mary Louisa 21 yrs sp St Johns Rd OTP d Thomas Alfred Wit Thomas Alfred Simmons William Blackwood
Burials 1902 Oct 7 Walter 16 years Royal Naval Hospital Stonehouse 1902 Dec 22 Ernest 23 months 43,St Johns Rd No further burials
I'll let you sort all thase out.Dont hesitate to get back if you need more info Regards Maggi
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Kevin
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7 Jan 2008 01:05 |
Maggi,
That's amazing! Words cannot express how much help you have been!
I had been stuck for about 2 years, and knew virtually nothing about my dad's side of the family. Now i've finally got a foot in the door, so to speak.
Thank you sooo much for spending the time researching a family that isn't even your own. It is very much appreciated!
You are a star :)
With sincerest thanks and kindest regards,
Kevin.
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Margaret
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8 Jan 2008 09:12 |
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8 Jan 2008 16:02 |
Hi Maggie
I have a family mystery, which you may be able to help me with. I am looking for any record of the birth of an Eleanor Tappern. Her birth is not registered, and I have not been able to find her in census records until after her marriage on 16/1/1875 in Hammersmith. Her parents are supposed to have been Isaac & Mary Tappern. Isaac was a gamekeeper in Goring Heath and the rest of the family have been tied together in other census records etc, but not Eleanor. An older family member(no longer with us) said that she was born 29/1/1850, but this would have clashed with another child, and there is an entry in a family bible saying a year later,29/1/1851 (but this was written in by someone at a later date). We have been told that the Tapperns were buried at Goring, having spent their whole life in the area, so it would be unlikely that Eleanor would have been born anywhere else, if she was Isaac & Mary's child, as the family believed. No one else researching the Tapperns has ever come across Eleanor, and we have not found a 1861 census, to see if she was mentioned with the family. By 1871 she would have left her parents, and probably be in service, although I have not found her yet. What I would love to know is whether she was ever christened. If so it should have been in Goring, and perhaps there might be confirmation of her parentage and birth date. I can see you must be very busy, but since this has been a mystery for so long, it can easily wait a bit longer. Any help would be appreciated.
Barbara
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Margaret
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8 Jan 2008 17:32 |
Hi Ellie There was no futher info on your Richard I'm afraid.None of the entries around that date had anything except basic informarion. Margaret Rose has the Oxfordshire Marriage disc.I'll bump it up for you Regards Maggi
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Margaret
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8 Jan 2008 17:44 |
Hi Barbara I have done some fairly intensive research in Goring as I have many ancestors there. Your Eleanor has been mistranscribed or originally mispelt(Not their strongest point in those days!) 1852 May 16 TAPLIN Ellenore d Isaac & Mary lab b 22 Jan
(Mary was nee Simmonds)
The siblings were Taplin too though Tapperns are there!! Hope this helps.If you need any other stuff just ask. Regards Maggi
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8 Jan 2008 22:52 |
Hi Maggie,
You are a star !
I knew that Mary's maiden name was Simmonds, but only have her d.o.b. as an estimated 1823 (from census records). Do you have the records that far back ? Also Isaac Tappern, the same year but no date. I believe Mary died in the first half of 1877, and Isaac possibly in 1888, although that Isaac Tappern's age doesn't tie in totally with my dates ! If you have records of any burials in Goring it would be extremely helpful to have things confirmed. My late mother-in-law was certain that her great grandparents were buried in the churchyard next to the river. It is interesting to hear that you had many relations in the same part of the world, and have done quite a bit of research in the area. I don't suppose you know who owned the land around Little Heath. We understand that Isaac was a gamekeeper on the estate, and that Eleanor went to work "at the big house". Family legend says that the lady of the manor was the sister of Eleanor's future husband's employer, and that was how they met. Of course this info has been passed down the generations, and you know how things get muddled ! Anyway, many thanks for your help so far, even if you can't give me any other info !
Regards Barbara
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Margaret
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8 Jan 2008 23:30 |
Hi Barbara Its a bit late tonight to search deeply but I had a quick look for you. At first glance I cant find Isaacs baptism but I think its very likely he is the child of another Isaac & Mary Tappern as there are other baptisms in the right time slot. I found a baptism for a Mary Anne Simmonds 15 Aug 1821 daughter of William & Catherine lab Goring Heath
Burial Mary Tappern 14 June 1877 age 53 Burial Isaac Tappern 11 July 1888 age 76 Unfortunately there are no futher details on these.
My Goring disc covers Bapts 1639 - 1950,Marrs 1639 - 1982,Burials 1639 - 1964
When I've a little spare time I'll sort out some more info for you.Do ask if you need anything specific.
Sorry I dont know who owned the land.My research has'nt really gone much beyond people so far Bye for now Maggi
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9 Jan 2008 01:31 |
Hi Maggi, thanks for your offer. I am looking for my great grandmother Gertrude who was a foster in early 1890s by James and Mary Rutherford.
Her mother could be Mary Allen. She worked in Post Office at Caversham. So her daughter Gertrude Allen was born about Dec 1888. I am unable to find her birth certificate.
Could you please look up in Caversham to see if any Allen were there from 1887 to 1890? Or maybe Gertrude Rutherford after 1890.
Also please look up Mary Allen who was born 1850 in Caversham and her parents were George and Margaret Allen.
Thanks, Steven.
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 16:25 |
Hi Steven Not having much luck with Gertrude I'm afraid. I found baptism for Mary Allen Caversham St Peter 1850 18 Aug d George & Margaret a carter. I found burial of Margaret 3 Sept 1861.It looks like George remarried to an Eliza.Marriage not St Peter. I looked 1887/8/9 for any Gertrude!! I found Mary in the parish of St Peter in 1891 still employed by same family.What makes you think she is Gertrudes mother? There are other parishes within Caversham but unfortunately I dont have baptism records for these.However I have to say as Mary remained in the same parish for so many years I believe she would have baptised her daughter there.Unless of course it was a 'Family secret' Is there any other info you could give me? Regards Maggi
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 16:36 |
Hi Again Steven Perhaps this is Gertrude? There are 2 births registered in name Gertrude Mary Allen.One April 1888 2c 324 Bradfield the other Oct 2c 331 Bradfield.Bradfield is Berkshire.The counties have changed however so this could be present day Oxfordshire. Do you not have Gertrudes marriage cert?That would give her fathers name possibly? Regards Maggi
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 20:36 |
Hi Barbara Still cant find Isaac I'm afraid but here are all the baptisms.Any after 1900 I'll send PM 1816 April 14 Tapporn Mary d Isaac & Martha NOT Mary as I previously thought!! Lab 1816 Sept 30 Tappern William s Charles & Charlotte lab 1817 June 8 Tappern Sarah d I & M Goring Heath 1818 Dec 13 Tappern David s I & M G H 1820 July 19 Tappern Elizabeth d I & M G H 1821 Nov 18 Tappern George s I & M G H 1823 April 27 Tappern James s I & M G H
1847 May 9 Taplin Tryphena Elizabeth d Isaac & Mary lab 1848 Aug 13 Taplin Elizabeth d Isaac & Mary b April 1 1850 May 12 Taplin William s I & M b Feb 3 1850 June 9 Tappern Arthur s David & Sarah lab b April 11 1852 May 16 Taplin Ellenore d I & M b Jan 22 1853 Nov 13 Tappern Martha d James & Mary lab 1854 June 4 Taplin Mary d I & M b April 22 1856 June 9 Taplin or Tappern Jane Emma d I & M lab Little Heath b Feb 13 1858 Jan 24 Tappern James s I & M lab Little Heath 1862 Feb 9 Taplin or Tappern Emily & Sarah Ann ds I & M L H 1865 Dec 17 Tappern Matilda d I & M b Dec 11 1872 Aug 11 Tappern Isaac William s of Ellen 1886 Feb 7 Tappern David s William & Susan Farmer b Dec 23 1885 1887 Sept 4 Tappern Mary Eliza d William & Susan Carman Regards Maggi
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 21:28 |
Hi Barbara Here are your Tappern marriages 17 Oct 1772 Taplin William x OTP Lovejoy Deborah x OTP Witt William Alexander Frances Taplin Banns
2 Sept 1815 Taplin Isaac b OTP x Frewin Martha sp OTP Witt Mary Frewin David Ielberry Banns
21 Sept 1846 Tappern Isaac 23 B lab OTP father Charles a yeoman Simmonds Mary 23 SP OTP f William lab Witt Rachel Hiscock William Lovejoy
3 Feb 1874 Tappern William 24 b lab OTP f Isaac lab Lipscombe Susan 22 SP OTP f Thomas farmer Witt Mark & Eliza Lipcombe Banns
31 July 1899 Tappern Thomas M 19 B OTP keeper f William woodman Hazell Eva Gertrude 21 SP f Edward woodman Witt George T Waldon Susan M Tappern Banns
The later marriages I'll send PM
I see that the original Isaacs wife was Martha Frewin.I'm nee Frewin! I'm still trying to connect Goring Frewins with mine!!
I also note that your Isaacs father wasnt Isaac snr but Charles!!
Hope they help Maggi
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Gill
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9 Jan 2008 21:43 |
Hi Maggi
Would be grateful if you could check Wantage and/or Grove parishes for the marriage of Samuel WELCH/WELSH & Elizabeth ?? circa 1736
regards Gill
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 22:35 |
Hi Barbara Here are Tappern Burials then thats it for today!! I see there is some more info in Goring Heath.I'll try to do that tomorrow. 1850 Oct 1 Martha 5 months 1850 Dec 16 David 32 1851 Nov 20 Tryphosa 21 1853 Jan 7 Henry 1 year 7 months 1853 Sept 11 Harriet 20 Goring Heath 1854 Jan 19 Martha 4 months Sherwell Bottom 1854 June 8 James 31 1855 April 8 Isaac 64 Goring Heath 1855 Dec 12 Mary 27 1857 Feb 16 Jane 1 1858 June 21 Mary 60 1874 June 7 Emily 14 1877 June 14 Mary 53 1888 July 11 Isaac 76 1903 Aug 5 Isaac 20 1905 Nov 20 Eliza Hannah 44 1908 March 21 Priscilla 19 Goring Heath 1913 Dec 18 James 55 1919 March 4 William 69 Crays Pond 1947 Feb 24 Emily Louisa 70 Upper Cleeve 1960 May 11 William Charles 65 3 ,Old? Elvedon Rd,Cleeve
There are some year gaps plus there are a couple of names on the indexes that are'nt on the transcripts! One of these is Charles in 1885(Could be Isaacs father?)It could just be that I've missed them of course. Bye for now Maggi 1858 June 21 Mary 60
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Margaret
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9 Jan 2008 22:45 |
Hi Gill Sorry no luck in Wantage & unfortunately Grove marriages(on my disc)start 1837 Regards Maggi
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