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Many many thanks for that Mary.
Annette

Hi Annette
Phew,not in the workhouse!!

3 Odell St,St George,Camberwell,London
John H Smith Head 43 Laundreyman b Hull Yorks census shows him as Blind
Sarah A Smith Sister 39 Laundress b Bermondsey
Rose E Smith Sister 31 Baking powder packer b Bermondsey

Regards
Mary

Mary,

I wonder if you can find in the 1901 census the following:

John Richard FLETCHER dob c 1896 possibly in Breconshire. His father and mother were Joseph and Elizabeth (nee Gardner) and I believe he had a sister Janet and a brother Fred.

I am particularly interested in the places of birth for the various family members but would be grateful for anything you can find,

Cheers

Ivor

Hello Mary,
Thank you for your kind offer.

Could you please look up Sarah A Smith born 1862 Bermondsey, living in Camberwell 1901.

I'd like to know who else is living with her and occupations if possible (unless it's a workhouse!).

Kind regards
Annette

Thanx for trying Mary will get back to you as soon as I get cert
Regards Chris

Hi Chris
I have had another look for the Kirby family on 1901,but still nothing.

Sorry
Mary

Hi Mary
Edith Ellen Kirbys Father was Joseph Kirby occupation chimney sweep
Thanx Chris

Hi Chris
I have checked the full BMD index on find my relatives and can find no others with that name born 1894/5.
It is highly likely that she lied about her age,it was common practise,especially when the bride was pregnant.No proof of age was required and the registrar would have entered the age she gave.

What does the marriage cert give for her father's name and occupation??

Regards
Mary

Hi Mary
Re Kirby family
I have just realised that the Edith Ellen Kirby b Mar qtr 1896 Paddington V1a P29 would have been too young because I have her wedding cert where she is married to Robert Tanner 16th December 1911 Kensington she is aged 17,unless she lied about her age as we believe Robert did saying that he was 21 when he was probably 19/20
We think that she was already pregnant when she got married
Would it have been possible to lie about their ages?
Were there any more Edith Ellen Kirby's b1894/5?
Would you mind taking another look for me
Thanx a lot Chris

Hi Vera

1861 3 French Alley,Whitecross St,St Luke,Middx
William Backe Head 32 Widr Plasterer b Dublin
Maria Backe Daur 20 b St Luke
Bridget Backe Daur 19 b St Luke
Ellen Backe Daur 12 b St Luke
Thomas Backe Son 9 b St Luke
Caroline Sturt Lodger 17 Worsted manufacturer b Shoreditch,Middx

Regards
Mary

Mary,

They were certainly mixed, but I have worked out who and what.

Could you possibly do another lookup?

1861.

Caroline Sturt born 1844. Middelsex

Many Thanks!

Hi Dorothy
1891 census Sarah M Parker age 18 Gen Dom serv In household of Owen family(Dairyman)
48 Cross St,Islington.

Just a coincidence?????

Let me know if you need more help after you get certs.

Regards
Mary

Hi Mary
Thanx for that it's a great help,I think I'll take your advice & order the certs will probably get back to you if that's ok Regards Chris

Hi Mary,

Please could you see if Sarah Margaret Fletcher is on the 1891 or 1901 census.b.1874 Islington.
I think i may have found her on 1881 living in Hornsey St.Islington.(could have it wrong) Am waiting for certs on other Fletchers now!
Your help has been very rewarding to me.
Thankyou... Dorothy.

Hi Chris
still having troouble finding the Kirby folk on 1901 and 1891 census.
I can confirm the marriage to Ellen Connell as Dec Qtr 1890 Fulham 1a 582
also
Edith Ellen Kirby March Qtr 1896 Paddington 1a 29

I think you will have to bitr the bullet and invest in both these certs as the info contained will give us more info to work on.

Regards
Mary

Hi Mary
Re Ellen&Joseph Kirby
The only thing I know about Ellen?&Joseph Kirby,is that they were probably living at 271 Potabello Road Kensington? in 1911 when their daughter Edith Ellen Kirby married Robert Tanner in Kensington
To make things more confusing Iv'e just found out that Ellen Kirby could be Jane R (nee name unknown) married to Joseph Kirby
Please would you mind looking for both Ellen Connell&Joseph Kirby married in 1890&Jane R ?married to Joseph Kirby(marriage date unknown)
Thanx very much
Regards Chris

Hello again Vera
Found Isaac in 1871,bit of a mixed up family which you need to see.
PM your email addy and I will send it to you.

Regards
Mary

Mary,

Please could you look in the 1871 census for Isaac Sturt, born 1817.

Many thanks,

Vera

Hi Chris do you know the birthplaces for Joseph ,Ellen(Mum ) and Edith Ellen.
I am having no success at the moment in finding them on either census.
Mary

Hi Ben
Sorry no trace of Ellen Crompton b 1843c Aspull on 1851 or 1861 census.
You will have to resort to getting her marriage cert.

Mary