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Hi Elizabeth,

I'm at work at the mo' but I'll look into it at the weekend. Where does Peter fit in?

Cheers

Phil

Phil
If you have time I have a really difficult one and have got stuck.
My great grandfather was William Houghton born 1850c in Whiston Lancashire.He married Elizabeth Waine (also born around 1850 )in 1871 in the parish Church at Whiston. Elizabeth was born in Prescott.
I ordered the marriage certificate to find William's Dad and it came back blank!!
I have had some help and am wondering if Peter was his Dad but have no proof.
On the 1891 census I find the family but not on 1881 census.I find Eliz with her parents in 1871 but can't find William.
Am wondering if I would be able to go by an address on the census and see who was living in the same house in 1881 as in 1891.

Hope you get all this.

Don't worry if it is too much work.it is a big mystery.

Elizabeth

Betty,

Couldn't find exactly what you were looking for, but perhaps the below will help:

Diocese of Kilmore, Antrim
CARNEY Peter Ann BLAKE 1772
CARNY Elinor Laughlin BERNE 1768

18 Aughnamullan Townland , Killead County Antrim (1851)
John Carney, Head, M, 40, Labourer, Don,
Mary Carney, Wife, M, 26, Flowerer, Don,
John Carney, Son, U, 13, Labourer, Don,

63 Larne Old Town St Townland , Larne County Antrim (1851)
Andrew Carney, Head, M, 44, Blacksmith, Ant,
Margaret Carney, Wife, M, 43, None, Ant,
John Carney, Son, U, 24, Blacksmith, Ant,
Nancy Carney, Daughter, U, 20, Seamstress, Ant,
Mary Carney, Daughter, U, 13, Seamstress, Ant,
Andrew Carney, Son, U, 9, At School, Ant,

5 Larne Craft Lane Townland , Larne County Antrim (1851)
Mary Carney, Head, U, 50, Muslin Sewer, Ant,

Also checked for Kearney, all from fragments of the 1851 census. Parish of AGHAGALLON
TOWNLANDS:--MONTIAGHS, TAMNYVANE, TISCALLE

69 Montiaghs Townland , Aghagallon County Antrim (1851)
John Kearney, Head, U, 40, Farmer, Ant,
Margaret Grant, Head, M, 26, Spinner, Ant,
John Grant, Son, U, 6, None, Ant,
Joseph Grant, Son, U, 4, None, Ant,
Mary Jane Grant, Daughter, U, 1, None, Ant,

71 Montiaghs Townland , Aghagallon County Antrim (1851)
William Kearney, Head, W, 55, Farmer, Ant,
Mary Ann Mccann, Daughter, M, 30, None, Ant,
Ellen Mccann, Granddaughter, U, 12, None, Ant,
William J Mccann, Grandson, U, 9, None, Ant,
Margaret Mccann, Granddaughter, U, 7, None, Ant,
Charlotte Mccann, Granddaughter, U, 5, None, Ant,

46 Tiscallen Townland , Aghagallon County Antrim (1851)
James Lavery, Head, U, 38, Weaver, Ant,
Margaret Lavery, Sister, U, 26, Winder, Ant,
Elizabeth Lavery, Sister, U, 20, Weaver, Ant,
John Lavery, Brother, U, 18, Weaver, Ant,
Mary Hamill, Sister, M, 35, Winder, Ant,
Patrick Hamill, Nephew, U, 4, None, Ant,
John Hamill, Nephew, U, 2, None, Ant,
William Kearney, U, 11, Beggar, Ant,

32 Aghalee Townland , Aghalee County Antrim (1851)
Ann Thompson, Head, W, 69, Farm Proprietor, Ant,
Samuel Thompson, Son, U, 37, Farm Manager, Ant,
Ann Thompson, Daughter, U, 33, Domestic Work, Ant,
Maria Thompson, Daughter, U, 31, Domestic Work, Ant,
Helen Mckearney, Servant, M, 45, House Servant, Ant,
John Thompson, Servant, U, 26, Ploughman, Ant,
John Oneill, Servant, U, 22, Ploughman, Ant,
Patrick Crossey, Servant, U, 16, Herdsman, Ant,


33 Aghalee Townland , Aghalee County Antrim (1851)
George Stephenson, Head, U, 40, Farm Proprietor, Ant,
Catherine Mcilmurray, Servant, U, 22, Housekeeper, Ant,
Joseph Towe, Servant, U, 28, Ploughman, Ant,
James Mckearney, Servant, U, 32, Ploughman, Ant,
George Rollins, Servant, W, 32, Ploughman, Ant,


Phil

Hunting being the word !! and thanx yet again for your time. Much appriecated and will follow both leads. Mayo is deffinate so latter is possible.

luv sue

Susie,

There's an interesting one in the 1851 census for Lancashire. My thoughts were that the majority of immigrants from Ireland turned up there (Liverpool) before traveling off around the country.

He's aged 4 living with his parents John & Catherine, along with 3 other children. They're all listed as being born in Mayo which is what caught my eye. There are another 4 candidates in that census all born in Ireland.

Happy hunting

Phil

Hi Phil many thanx that looks promising and will follow that up. I coudnt find him at all in 1861 or 51 either.
Found Ancestry site which seems to have more records to look up so going to give that a try soon.

thanx again
luv sue

Susie,

I've found what may be him in the 1861 census for Denbigshire. They're living at 5 Domings Square, St. Asaph.

Listed are:
Michael - 65 father - Ag Labourer - born Ireland
James - 31 Head - Railway labourer - born Ireland
Mary - 35 wife - born Ireland
John - 16 brother - born Ireland
Martin - 6 - born St. Asaph
Thomas - 3 - born St. Asaph
James - 2 - born St. Asaph
Patrick - 7 months - born St. Asaph

Not sure who he's the brother to, could be John I suppose.

Cheers

Phil

Lisa,

A quick search shows:
19 document for Hoy - lots of Longford
59 documents for Dawson - mainly Mayo, but some Longford
9 documents for Wier - again some Longford, would have thought there would be more than that.

If you can give me some further info to narrow the search I'll have another look. If you don't want to use here then you can mail me off my site, or use the message board.

Cheers

Phil

Lisa,

I have over 650 documents in all relating to Ireland. Most of the documents I have are in Word format, so searching for a single surname is fairly easy. Combing two names is a bit more difficult as a lot of the documents are in table format and MS search doesn't like, or recognize, that.

The names I have listed are from my tree, that's where my effort tends to go when putting stuff on the site. Although I list all my unwanted certs along with my real ones, plus any people send me.

I'll have a look-see for your names although it would help if there was a county.

Cheers

Phil

Hi Phil just in from work,thanks for your time and yes hes hard to trace. Sorry for the mix up but its the 1871 not 1891 census I found him sorry.
I backtracked from what I knew via family starting with my grandmother Rosanna Higgins 1899 she was born in St Asaph Wales.She had twin sisters (younger) but were taken into a convent and we think were adopted. Havent started to trace them yet!!

1901 census-I have her living in the Union workhouse at St Asaph with her mother Elizabeth Higgins 1880 (single mother).
1891 census- Elizabeth Higgins Head (widow) 1843
Elizabeth Higgins Daughter 1880
Kate Higgins Daughter 1882
Living 2 Boston Place St Asaph Denbighshire Conway Caenarvonshire. This must be right as family said there was an aunt Kate.
1871 census-John Higgins Head 1846
Elizabeth Higgins Wife 1843
Barbara Higgins Daughter 1868
John J Higgins son 1871
Rosannah Callaghan Wifes Sister1849
Living 52a Wellington Road St Asaph Denbighshire Bagallt Flintshire. Not 100% certain if have right family but seems to tie in.
This is as far as I have got . Drew a blank in Mayo so he might be in uk somewhere before that??

Thanks again and sorry for the mix up again.
Luv Sue

Hi Betty,

Just done a quick search on my documents, and there's about 75 documents that came up for Carney, most of them were for Mayo though. I suspect Kennedy will probably be as popular.

I'll do a bit more digging and let you know if I find anything.

Cheers

Hi Phil,

I am trying to find a family in Ireland, Belfast area maybe Antrum or Down. Nicholas John Carney (hairdresser) and his wife Margaret Kennedy , they had two girls Catherine and Mary about 1880, they may be twins..

Any info on any of them would be greatly appreciated.!!

Betty

Thanks JJ,

It's nice to get some kind words. On top of the queries below I've had about 30 mails directly from my site over the last few days, which has been challenging. I'm thinking of calling myself an Irish expert the number of those queries I get :-)

Cheers

Susie Q,

I can't find him in the 1891 census, do you have a folio etc.? What is it about that record that makes you think it's him? any other info would be helpful

Cheers

Phil

Thank you Phil for the look up of John Holvey very much appreciated.

Elizabeth Anne

Elizabeth Anne,

Sorry, I can't find anything for that name in my records.

Regards

Phil

I have setup a message board on the web site, feel free to use that rather than the contact form, as always please let me know any comments, suggestions etc.

Cheers

Phil

Jackie,

I sent this as a reply to your mail:
I've found some info, although I don't have access to much regarding Cheshire. I found the following:
John Buckley (Husbandsman) & Martha Adshead both of Sid. (?) 26 Oct 1783.

This was under the Prestbury marriages.

Did you get this?

Cheers

Phil

Susie Q,

I can't find any John Higgins. I did find the following from Charlestown, I think they are deaths:

Dominick Higgins Kilgarriff 07/10/1982
Alice Higgins Cashel 14/09/1982
Patrick Higgins Barnacogue 17/10/1980
Mary Higgins Lowpark 18/04/1986
Charles Higgins Lowpark 06/01/1991
Stephen Higgins Cashel 22/01/1997

I found the following for the parish of Islandeady, Co Mayo:

1898
Patrick John to Michael HIGGINS and Bridget MURRY December 14 Cogaula

Ellen to Pat MULDOON and Ellen HIGGINS March 15 Drumneen
Sponsors John and Bridget Higgins


1891
Mary to Pat MULDOON and Ellen HIGGINS February 22

1895
Thomas to Pat MULDOON and Ellen HIGGINS December 26 Drumneen

Sorry, this is all I could find for Mayo

Regards

Phil

Jackie,

I've replied to your mail from my site. As for the Buckley's after 1891, I found a John in the 1901 census, living with a Hannah. (Census ref:Class: RG13; Piece: 3341; Folio: 131; Page: 20)

I suppose the Hanna could be his sister although she's down as his wife. There are 5 children, the oldest being Fred born c1889.

Could this be right, or have you already seen this record?

Cheers

Phil