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27 Oct 2007 13:29 |
1871 England Census about Miles Thompson Name: Miles Thompson Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relation: Son Father's Name: Miles Mother's Name: Mary A Gender: Male Where born: Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Borrowby Town: Borrowby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Disability: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Mary A Thompson 43 Mary E Thompson 10 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Miles Thompson 41 Miles Thompson 4 Robert Thompson 14 Sarah Thompson 12 Thomas Thompson 8 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 1881 England Census about Mary Ellen Thomson Name: Mary Ellen Thomson Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: Miles Mother's Name: Mary Ann Gender: Female Where born: Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Crosby County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Crosby Manor Education:
Employment status: View Image Occupation: Farmers Daughter Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Mary Ann Thomson 53 Mary Ellen Thomson 20 Miles Thomson 51 Miles Thomson 14 Robert Thomson 22 Sarah Thomson 24 Thomas Thomson 18
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27 Oct 2007 13:47 |
I do not know about you Claire, Jim and Louise but I am getting very confused here. You have found two possible families for me. So I need to try and find out which is my one.
Let me explain my reasoning here.
I was sent this email:
As always this is probably a dead end, but one never knows. I have the will of Ella Hoggard of E.Halton in my possession. She d. 23.6.1954 willing to Alfred Ernest Grey her brother-in-law and sister Priscilla (nee Ellerby) his wife and also to Florence Ellerby her step-sister. I don't know where they all fit into my tree but I remember a Walter Ellerby visiting my parents. Do any of these seem familiar? Julian.
I found a marriage between Priscilla Clark and Alfred Grey 1919. So I thought as Julian said Julian had said Priscilla's name was Ellery I thought her mother must have marriaed twice. Hence marriage to William Thackery Ellerby and Harry Clarke. Julian also said she had a step sister Florence ellerby which would also suggest her mother had married twice.
Then Claire found the 1901 census with children with the names Ellerby and clarke so that looked like my family.
However it said her mother was Sarah Ann ellerby age 69. If Sarah Ann Ellerby was her mother she could not have married William Thackery Ellerby. See my problem.
Thanks for all your help
Jane
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27 Oct 2007 13:48 |
Looks like Mary Ellen Ellerby nee Thompson married Samuel Banner
Samuel Banner 1896 Jan-Feb-Mar Northallerton Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire
Mary Ellen Ellerby 1896 Jan-Feb-Mar Northallerton Yorkshire - North Riding, North Yorkshire
1901 England Census about William Ellerby Name: William Ellerby Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886 Relation: Stepson Mother's Name: Mary E Gender: Male Where born: Thornton-Le-Beans, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Thornton Le Beans Ecclesiastical parish: North Otterington Town: Thornton Le Beans County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Northallerton Sub-registration district: Northallerton ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 42 Household Members: Name Age Dorothy E Banner 9 months Joseph Banner 2 Laura M Banner 3 Mary E Banner 39 Mary E Banner 4 Samuel Banner 34 Eliz Ellerby 17 William Ellerby 15
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27 Oct 2007 13:52 |
Jim Your 1871 censu is look good as well. That says her mother is Mary ann Thomson. If that is true who is Sarah Ann Ellerby on the 1901 censu Claire found. Was she MOther in Law and not mother perhaps??
Thanks for helping me
Jane
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27 Oct 2007 13:56 |
I will try to summarise what we have in a mo
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27 Oct 2007 14:15 |
1) Mary Ellen Ellerby born c1867 Saxby Linconshire daughter of Sarah Ann & Joseph Married Harry Clark/Clarke 1888 children Sarah Ann Clark c1889 & Joseph Ellerby Clark c1900
2) Mary Ellen? Thompson born c1861 Borrowby Yorkshire daughter of Mary A & Miles Thompson Married William Thackery Thompson 1882 children Helenora or Eliza Ellerby c1884 John Ellerby c1883 William T Ellerby c1886
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Married Samuel Banner 1896 children Mary E Banner c1897 Laura M Banner c1898 Joseph Banner c1899
Please bear in mind that to prove this you would need a whole pile of certs
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27 Oct 2007 14:15 |
The one I found 1861 Mary Ellen Thompson Miles, Mary Ann abt 1860 Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Daughter Borrowby Yorkshire 1871 Mary E Thompson Miles, Mary A abt 1861 Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Daughter Borrowby Yorkshire 1881 Mary Ellen Thomson Miles, Mary Ann abt 1861 Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Daughter Crosby Yorkshire 1891 Mary E Ellerby abt 1861 Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Head Thornton Le Beans Yorkshire 1901 Mary E Banner Samuel abt 1862 Borrowby, Yorkshire, England Wife Thornton Le Beans Yorkshire
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27 Oct 2007 14:16 |
Thanks Claire.
so if we can discount Mary Ellen Thomas who marrried William Thackery out it must mean the other family is mine.
So she was born Mary Ann Ellerby not Clarke.
Her parent were Joseph and Mary Ann Ellerby. This Mary Ann went on to marry Harry Clark. Then at mary ann's (the daughter) marriage she used the name clarke not Ellerby. Does this sound right
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Jane
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27 Oct 2007 14:22 |
The other 1871 Mary E Ellerby Joseph, Sarah A abt 1867 Saxby, Lincolnshire, England Daughter Saxby Lincolnshire 1881 Ellen Mary Ellerby abt 1867 Saxby, Lincoln, England Servant Barton St Peter Lincolnshire 1891 Mary E Clark Harry abt 1867 Saxby, Lincolnshire, England Wife Barton On Humber Lincolnshire 1901 Mary Ellen Clarke Sarah Ann, Harry abt 1867 Saxby All Saints, Lincolnshire, England Wife Barton On Humber Lincolnshire
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27 Oct 2007 14:32 |
The info we have suggests that Mary Ellen Ellerby the daughter of Sarah Ann & Joseph Ellerby married Harry Clark therefore from 1888 onwards she should have signed all documents as Clark. I've lost the plot on her daughter Mary Ann as I can only find Sarah Ann.
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27 Oct 2007 14:36 |
Thanks Jim
I think we have finally got there.
Sarah Ann and and Joseph were Mary Ellens parents and Mary Ellen married Harry Clark..
Great
Thank you all very much. That is that part of the problem sorted . Now all I have to do is find out who Florence and Walter ellerby are. And how all these people are conected to Ella hoggard.
Thanks again
Jane
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27 Oct 2007 15:02 |
Ella Hoggard died 1954 Grimsby age 68
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27 Oct 2007 15:09 |
If ella was born about 1886 I have no idea of her connection to Harry Then.
Please can you remind me where Harry Clark was born. I couldn't see it on the census. Or there again was it Saxby Lincs?
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Jane
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27 Oct 2007 15:32 |
marriage Ella Clark 1911 Apr-May-Jun Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire
Ewart W Hoggard 1911 Apr-May-Jun Glanford Brigg Lincolnshire
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27 Oct 2007 15:40 |
Thanks Jim for that marriage. Now all I have to do is find out how Harry and Ella are connected.
All the best
jane
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27 Oct 2007 15:55 |
Please can someone look up Henry Clark b 1858 Great Hatfield and Pricsilla Clark b 1860 yorkshire. On the 1891 census Thank you.
Jane
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27 Oct 2007 18:19 |
I think you mean this one
1891 England Census about Henry Clark Name: Henry Clark Age: 32 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Priscilla Gender: Male Where born: Seaton, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Rise Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Town: Rise County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View Image Registration district: Skirlaugh Sub-registration district: Skirlaugh ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Bartha Clark 9/12 Ella Clark 4 Ethel Clark 9 Henry Clark 32 Priscilla Clark 32 Rosina Clark 7
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27 Oct 2007 18:20 |
Looks like Henry died
England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983 about Henry Clark Name: Henry Clark Estimated birth year: abt 1859 Year of Registration: 1892 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 33 DISTRICT: Skirlaugh County: Yorkshire - East Riding Volume: 9d Page: 193 (click to see others on page
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27 Oct 2007 18:21 |
Priscilla remarried Priscilla Clark 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Skirlaugh Yorkshire - East Riding
Benjamin William Drewry 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Skirlaugh Yorkshire - East Riding
Thomas Northgraves 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Skirlaugh Yorkshire - East Riding
Mary Jane Whiting 1893 Oct-Nov-Dec Skirlaugh Yorkshire - East Riding
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27 Oct 2007 18:22 |
& had children Priscilla & Florence!
1901 England Census about Priscilla Drewry Name: Priscilla Drewry Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Benjiman Gender: Female Where born: Skirlaugh, Yorkshire, England Civil parish: Raisthorpe and Burdale Ecclesiastical parish: Thixendale St Mary the Virgin Town: Raisthorpe County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Malton Sub-registration district: Westow ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 38 Household Members: Name Age Bertha Clark 10 Florence A Clark 7 Priscilla Clark 8 Rosina Clark 17 Drewry under 1 month Benjiman Drewry 32 Gertrude Drewry 4 Priscilla Drewry 40
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