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Have not found 74 Milton Place where does your contact have this address from ,were you given any census numbers for the page? i have looked at the Enumerators pages for Radford but could'nt see Milton Place

Hi, thanks for that Janice.

nicola

Just found this could it be her with her widowed mother? living in York court
Name: Emma Place
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Name: Hannah Place
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1831
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Mansfield, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: St Mary
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Not had any luck with that yet. It is only 1881 census that gives address that you can search ,so i am looking for it on the Enumerators page first in 1871(sometimes writing is hard to read!)

Hi Janice,
Ive got in contact with someone and they have given me this address just wondering if Emma lived here at the time, 74 Milton Place, radford, Nottingham its from 1871 census.
Thanks Nicola

ok will do thanks.

:)

Nicola you might want to "search trees" on this site .I think there are people with Emma,s name
Gillian and Karen both have an Emma Place and Thomas Murden(the grandfather in early census) might find out what happened to her in 1881census etc

your not kidding, but hopefully getting there.

:)

Looks like he is the John Charles 1901 you were send before
Name: John Charles Hillyard
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Eccleshill
Ecclesiastical parish: Eccleshill St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
living with some Robinsons
Amelia Robinson 50
Emma Robinson 26
Samuel Robinson 50

wonder if they were anything to do with the Eliza witness at the wedding? the puzzle grows

have found this marriage which might be his then
Name: John Charles Hillyard
Year of Registration: 1901
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Bradford
County: Yorkshire - West Riding, West Yorkshire
Volume: 9b
Page: 29

others on index page
Thomas Barnes,Emily Milnes and Ada Sellars so this could be Emily.
I will look for him in 1901

ok thanks, cant believe i didnt click sooner. must be all these dates flying round it doesnt take much to confuse me!!!!!!!!!

I could'nt find a birth cert for abt 1879 which if my maths is right that would have been his year of birth!
so a certificate might be the answer.

just had another thought the john charles whos card I have must be the son of John charles and emma place thats the only way the dates add up and also ive just read the card again and it says the beloved husband of EMILY. not emma, sorry for givin you the wrong info.

Ive just realised what you ment about john hillyard and the dates they dont add up at all

Hi, the witnesses where friends their names were james Baines, and Eliza Robinson. The age for Johns is right it says on the card that he was 61 when he passed away I would imagine it was his wife who registered his death as she was the one that sent the card.
Thanks Nicola

well thats great to have the records already.
Have found the death index for John for your info . Just looking at the age ,it doe'nt tie in with the age of father does it? could it be a brother? or whoever registered the death was very wrong about his age.
John C Hillyard age 61 years Bradford
volume 9b
page 115
sept.quarter 1940
A cert. should give who registered it.
Who were the witnesses at the marriage ? were they family?
If you are wanting to do "the family" history you may want to think about getting some of the certs,to tell you more about them.

wow this is confusing, maybe sarah ann is mary ann's sister, My mum brought a load of certificates and letters ect. which belonged to my late Nanna, I have the birth certificate of Mary-ann, her wedding certificate which is were i got york street from, and her death certificate ive also gt a card which states that john charles Hillyard died sept.1st 1940 in bradford he was interred at north Bierley cemetery, 83 sterling street, manchester road, bradford. well all i can say is that they liked to move around alot.
Thanks Nic

there is this birth index that might be Sarah if you want to get the cert to see who the parents are? Intresting the surname is spelt the same as one for Mary Ann
Name: Sarah Ann Hildyard
Year of Registration: 1887
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Nottingham
County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 340

Interesting! How did you know this address?
1901 transcribed as follows but the image does look like Hilyard.
Address is 151 york Road(?not street) so will keep looking to see if there is also a street. Father is a boot/shoe maker and where does Hannah and Sarah fit in?
Name: John Gilyard
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Hannah
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire


Name: Hannah Gilyard
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
Name: Sarah Ann Gilyard
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Hannah
Gender: Female
Where born: Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds

Hi Janice, Mary-ann Hillyard was living with her parents at 151 york street leeds in 1903 this makes Mary-ann 23 at that time I was wondering if they may have lived there for 1901 census if possible could you look this up.

thanks Nicola