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Hi Caroline

This one has got me stumped.

There is a William Sumner death:

Deaths Sep 1886
Sumner William 25 Walsall 6b 356

He was 25 so it could be him. I have looked at the 61 and 71 census to see if I could find a likely candidate but there are a couple it could be.

I think that I would be inclined to try for this death certificate to see if there is any link to the address that Theresa was born at.

Sorry I couldn't solve the mystery for you

Best wishes


Andrea

Hi Alyson

I can't find a marriage for Elizabeth and John Coel.

Thanks


Andrea

Hi
NO it is not her bith i am looking for could not understand why she was living with this family ? . Iwas looking for the maiden name of elizabeth coel and were John & her married dont know how i would find any of this out
Thanks Alyson

Di

Forgot that I had also found this. Nothing more than you probably already know but a precise date:

Parish Heighington alternatively – in county Dur Married on 29/05/1792 Groom John Longstaff residence ASA other – Bride Ann Lambton residence – other – Orig – Checked

Best Wishes


Andrea

hi Andrea,

Ann Sharpe ( nee Wilson) born abt 1820,
so would make her about 41years, or between 40-42 years.

Joseph's parents were Meshack Sharpe 1789 and Ann Roper 1782.

Thanks Allison

Carlynan

I think this is a bit strange. On the 1861 census John, the eldest son is down with the surname of Liddle, born at Seaton but the rest of the children are Lovatt.

In 1851 there is an Ellen , born in Southwick with a daughter Ellen, 2 months, born in Seaton. I think perhaps that this may be your Ellen.

I can't find a marriage record for them and I have tried every spelling of Lovatt that I can think of.

I will look some more tomorrow

Best Wishes

Andrea

I'm going off line now so if I haven't answered you I will do so tomorrow.

Best Wishes

Andrea

Allison

This is the only close one I can find but the father is George so probably not correct:

George Sharpe
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Mountsorrel, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Barrow Upon Soar and Mountsorrel
County/Island: Leicestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Barrow Upon Soar
Sub-registration district: Quorndon
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Sharpe 46
Anne Sharpe 24
George Sharpe 47
George Sharpe 6
Harriet Sharpe 2
Isaiah Sharpe 20
John Sharpe 15
Samuel Sharpe 13
Sarah J Sharpe 9
William Sharpe 17

Do you have any idea how old Ann is?

Many thanks


Andrea

Hi Caroline

Sorry,who is Elizabeth? Is she Theresa's mother or sister?

Many thanks


Andrea

Andrea
Thank you for looking and the confirmation that William is his father. I don't have any other details for Ann. Thanks again for taking the time to look.
Di

Hi Andrea,

Re: Jane cowans

Well Done Andrea ive tryed for ages looking for her birth thank you so much.
I'll let you know if its her.
Thanks Val

Di

This is the only record I could find on IGI. The other records that I have don't go that far back.

JAMES LONGSTAFF Pedigree
Male


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 02 MAY 1756 Auckland Saint Helen, Durham, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM LONGSTAFF Family

Do you know roughly when Ann was born?

Thanks Andrea

Thanks Andrea. Will do as you suggest - will order a certificate of one of the children.

Thank you very much for taking the time to help me. Very much appreciated!

Take care :)

Hi Andrea,

Are you able to look up a census for Joseph Sharpe c1817 and Ann Wilson his wife. I only have one child George 1853(have birth cert) and I was hoping there might be more.
They lived in Mountsorrel Leicestershire

Thanks Allison

Hi Andrea
Thank you for the kind offer of look ups today. I am trying to confirm the parents of James Longstaff b1756 Auckland St Helens. I have tried parish records but was told no records survive for the parish of that time. James went on to marry Ann Lambton in 1790 but I have no other details for her either.
Any info would be most appreciated.
Thanks
Di

Val

Here is a potential birth for Jane:

COWEN Jane 1861 Durham Western (available from durham.gov.uk)

Jane Cowen 1861 Jan-Feb-Mar Auckland Durham Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 171


Hamsterley would be in Auckland so this could be it.

Let me know if it turns out to be any good.

Best Wishes


Andrea

Hi Helen

The only marriage that I can find is a Patrick Donough to an Ann Macklin (although it is Mackin on Teesvalleyindexes) in Qtr 2 of 1882. It's in the right area and there is a chance that it may just be mis spelled.

I think I would be looking to get one of the children's birth certs and this might provide you with the confirmation that you need.

That said, I have looked at previous census for either a Ann or Patrick and I can't find them.

Best Wishes


Andrea

Thanks Andrea!
Well done on finding them! I looked for a long while and didnt find anything!

Thanks for keeping looking too! Its very kind of you. Like I said any information would be welcomed.

Thanks again! :)

Hi Alyson

I saw the one with the Coel family. Is there a definite connection with the Coel's?

Is it her birth you are looking for?

Many thanks


Andrea

Hi Helen

All of the children's births are registered at Middlesbrough (teesvalleyindexes) and I have found them (badly transcribed!) in Linthorpe in 1891:

Michael Donahue
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Palk
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesborough, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Linthorpe
Ecclesiastical parish: St Hildas
Town: Middlesborough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Middlesbrough
Sub-registration district: Middlesbrough
ED, institution, or vessel: 61
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Donaghue 24
Ann Donahue 26
Daven Donahue 28
Janes Donahue 7
Margt Donahue 1
Michael Donahue 5
Palk Donahue 33
Thomas Donahue 3

According to the birth records James was born in 1884 so assumedly they married before that. I will keep on looking.

Best Wishes


Andrea