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Thank you Laura, seems he never married - oh well

Flying High-

1851 England Census
about Joseph Peat
Name: Joseph Peat
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Chester
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Keswick
ED, institution, or vessel: 9d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 107
Household Members: Name Age
George Peat 40 ( can't read occupation-sorry!)
Joseph Peat 7
Margaret Peat 35
Martha Peat 4
Sarah Peat 8 Mo

1861 England Census
about Joseph Peat
Name: Joseph Peat
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: Carlisle
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Cocker Lane

Occupation: Skimmer

Condition as to marriage: Unmarried

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 83
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Peat 17
Margaret Peat 45 beer house keeper
Martha Peat 14 Hat trimmer
Sarah Peat 10

1871 England Census
about Joseph Peat
Name: Joseph Peat
Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: Mackereth row

Occupation: Plasterer

Condition as to marriage: unmarried


Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 68
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Peat 27
Margaret Peat 55 House Keeper
Sarah Peat 20 factory operative

1881 England Census
about Joseph Peat
Name: Joseph Peat
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Margaret
Gender: Male
Where born: Cmouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cockermouth
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address: MacKereth Row Kirkgate
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Wallers Labr (Mason)

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Peat 37 unmarried
Margaret Peat 66 retired
Margaret Peat 4 (grandaughter)
Sarah Peat 30 unmarried thread mill worker

1901 England Census
about Joseph Peat
Name: Joseph Peat
Age: 57
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1844
Relation: Uncle
Gender: Male
Where born: Cockermouth, Cumberland, England

Civil Parish: Cockermouth
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
County/Island: Cumberland
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Cockermouth
Sub-registration district: Cockermouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 88
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Peat 57
Annie Starkie 6
Joseph Starkie 28
Margt P Starkie 2
Sarah Starkie 26


Hope this is ok?
Laura x

Marjorie:

1841 Scotland Census
about Grace Small
Name: Grace Small
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Gender: Female
Where born: Angus, Scotland

Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: Hawkhill
Parish Number: 282
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Fraser 43
David Small 46
Grace Small 5
John Small 3
Mary Small 25




1851 Scotland Census
about Grace Small
Name: Grace Small
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1836
Relationship: Daughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Dundee, Forfarshe
Parish Number: 282
Civil Parish: Dundee
County: Angus
Address: 3 Bellfield Lane
Occupation: Genl Servt
ED: 89
Page: 11 (click to see others on page)
Household schedule number: 46
Line: 7
Roll: CSSCT1851_63
Household Members: Name Age
John Fraser 50 (lodger)
Ann Small 39
David Small 56
David Small 6
Grace Small 15
John Small 13
Luisa Small 2
Susan Small 11

As i cant find an entry for her in 1861 i assume she married between censuses, and i dont have access to scottish BMD so unfortunately can't check it out for you.

Laura x

Jackie im sorry but i cant seem to find anything, i will keep looking though.

Laura x

Hi Laura, wonder if you can help, looking for
Joseph Peat b 1844, Cockermouth, Cumberland. in the 1890 Census, looking for his family, many thanks Flying High.

John: This is the 1851 census for John Oliver & Jane Glendenning, before John Oliver jnr was born obviously

1851 England Census
about John Oliver
Name: John Oliver
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1812
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Ponteland, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: West Brunton
Ecclesiastical parish: Gosforth
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: West Bronton
Occupation: Agricultural labourer
Condition as to marriage: married
Disability:
Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 72
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Oliver 8
Jane Oliver 33
Jane Oliver 4
John Oliver 39
John Oliver 3
Joseph Oliver 6
Margaret Oliver 1
Thomas Oliver 9


1861 England Census
about John Oliver
Name: John Oliver
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Newburn, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Ponteland
Town: Ponteland
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur Oliver 7
Jane Oliver 14
John Oliver 45
John Oliver 4
Margaret Oliver 11
Mary Cecily Oliver 1
Thomas Oliver 19
William Oliver 9
obviously Jane Oliver died after giving birth to mary Cecily

1871 England Census
about John Oliver
Name: John Oliver
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Gender: Male
Where born: Denton, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Ponteland
Ecclesiastical parish: Ponteland
Town: Ponteland
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View Image

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Ponteland
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 67
Household Members: Name Age
John Oliver 57
John Oliver 13
Margaret Oliver 20
Mary Cecily Oliver 11
William Oliver 19

in 1881 John Oliver snr is living with his daughter Margaret and her family:
1881 England Census
about John Oliver
Name: John Oliver
Age: 66
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Father in Law
Gender: Male
Where born: Ponteland, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: East Heddon
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England

Street address: Brickney Hill Cottage
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Agricultural Labourer

Registration district: Castle Ward
Sub-registration district: Stamfordham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James Bell 28
Joseph Bell 2
Margaret Bell 30
Margaret Jane Bell 6
Mary Ann Bell 4
Thomas Bell
John Oliver 66

there are a few possible entries for John jnr in this year, possible servant/prisoner? i can't be sure i'm afraid.

Name: John Oliver
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Janet
Gender: Male
Where born: Newburn Hill Head, Northumberland, England

Civil Parish: Gateshead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Aidans
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:no 122 Askew rd, 'Askew Arms'
Occupation: Bar manager
Condition as to marriage: Married
Employment status: Employed

Registration district: Gateshead
Sub-registration district: Gateshead
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Janet Kirkpatrick 53 (visitor)
Arthur A Oliver 4
Janet Oliver 32
John Oliver 33
Norman Oliver 1

Then i'm afraid that John Oliver died, as in 1901 i found Janet & Arthur along with another of Arthur's siblings John, in the union workhouse.

1901 England Census
about Janet Oliver
Name: Janet Oliver
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Inmate
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland

Civil Parish: Elswick
Ecclesiastical parish: St Augustine
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
condition as to marriage:Widow

Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
ED, institution, or vessel: Union Workhouse
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 1

Arthur Oliver 14
Isabella Oliver 63
Janet Oliver 33
John Oliver 7

Is there anything else i can do for you? deaths of either John Olivers or Jane Glenndinning?

Hope this helps, Laura x

Laura
Can you please look up Census Records for Grace Small for me , Around Dundee ,Angus Scotland area , born abt 1835 or 1836 ,
Best Regards
Marjorie

Hello Laura thanks for the offer of look ups. I am looking for information on a John Oliver, he was born in 1857 at Newburn Newcastle upon Tyne. His fathers name was John and his mothers name was Jane Glendinning. In 1886 he married a Janet Kirkpatrick in Edinburgh, she came from Glencairn in Scotland. At this time John was living at 90 Southey St. Gateshead and was a waiter in a public house. Any help would be very much appreciated.
John

Looks like that wasn't him after all, the death records for Dec 1/4 state that David Simpson died aged 76 in Havering. that would make his DOB 1891. the following record seems to fit:

1901 England Census
about David Simpson
Name: David Simpson
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation: Son
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Caroline
Gender: Male
Where born: East Ham, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Barking
Ecclesiastical parish: Barking St Margaret
Town: Barking
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Barkingtown
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 225
Household Members: Name Age
Caroline Simpson 39
David Simpson 40
David Simpson 10
Dorothy Simpson 2
Lily Simpson 13
Louisa Simpson 9
William Simpson 5

would you like me to trace these people back for you?
Laura x

yep, will do!

: )

Would you be able to look at his death certificate for me as this would confirm his D.O.B?
David Simpson
Died Dec 1967
?West ham?
lynsey x

Something strange? Well now you have me intriged!
I think that is him, everything seems to add up!
lynsey x

i hope that is him, i've uncovered something rather strange....! wont say anything in case it isn't him, but keep me informed as you find out more?

Laura xx

Thats great, hopefully talking to others in my family and researching abit more I can confirm that is him!
Your a star!
Lynz x

David Simpson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Mother's Name: Minnie
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil Parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Forest Gate
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 204
Household Members: Name Age
David Simpson 7
Gwendoline Simpson 12
Minnie Simpson 34
Willie Simpson 9

This is the only one i found that really fit.... it is the 1901 census obviously.. His mother Minnie is a widower and was born in Guildford in Surrey, And it states she was 'Living on own means'.
it would obviously be best to order your Great Grandparents marriage certificate as that will have his father's name on it.
Hope that is useful, let me know if i can do anything else. Laura x

no affraid not! Dont worry if u cant find him im still in early stages
thanks again
x

do you have any idea what his parents may have been called?
Laura x

Hey laura
Can you look up my great grandad for me?
His name was David Simpson and he was born in 1893 and died in dec 1967 i know he married in west ham, essex but not sure if he was born there.
thanks x

i would be happy to do lookups for anyone who needs them, please provide as much info as possible, year and place of birth etc..
Look forward to hearing from you and hope i can help!
Laura x