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Hello Marcelle
This is probably a very long shot given the small amount of information I have.
I'm trying to find out anything about a William BUTCHER born c1788 in Bristol according to the 1851 and 61 censuses. He married an Elizabeth but as she came from Cripplegate and they were living in London during all censuses I would guess they also married there.
I can only find one possible on IGI (submitted) son of William Butcher and Charity Dando in Farrington Gurney - is that near enough to Bristol to class as being born in Bristol?
Many Thanks
Pam

Hi Christine

who were the witnesses on the marriage cert? What does it say on the grave?


1891 England Census
about Albert H Salter
Name: Albert H Salter
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol

Civil Parish: St Paul
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthias
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Salter 3/12
Albert H Salter 37
Maria Salter 22


1901 England Census
about Beatrice Selter
Name: Beatrice Selter
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Albert H
Mother's Name: Maria
Gender: Female
Where born: Bristol; Bedminster

Civil Parish: Bristol
Ecclesiastical parish: Bedminster St John the Baptist
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bristol
Sub registration district: Bedminster
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 157
Household Members: Name Age
Albert H Selter 43
Albert H Selter 10
Beatrice Selter 13
Maria Selter 36


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Age reads 13 but could be a tick by her name and possibly read aged 3


There is a Maria from London living in Bristol in 1881,, unmarried which narrows down the time frame for them marrying

1881 England Census
about Maria Dimsdale
Name: Maria Dimsdale
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Westbury On Trym
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England

Street address: No 3 Hampton Ter
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: General Servant

Registration district: Barton Regis
Sub registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Maria Dimsdale 15
Ada M. Harris 8
Alfred Thomas J. Harris 4
Edward H. Harris 41
Edward John Harris 15
Helen B. Harris 45
Helen Eliza Harris 12
Jane Madeline Harris 9


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Hi Pam

I found one William Henry Butcher baptised 3.1.1794 @ St Stephen born 24/10/1792. Father William mother Elizabeth.

Farrington Gurney is a village situated in Bath and North East Somerset . The village lies on the junction of the A37 and A362 in Somerset.

St Stephen in bang in the middle of Bristol. I notice on the census it says Somerset, Bristol. I would ask some one to check baptisms for Somerset

Good luck, sorry not much help

Marcelle

Thanks for the information Marcelle - with so little to go on it was always a long shot. I'll make a note of it anyway, you never know it may fit in somewhere in the future
Pam

Hi Marcelle
Thomas Baker born about 1824 Bristol married Ann Verrinder (born Painswick Gloucs) in May 1839 in Middlesex. Unfortunately I know nothing more about him other than the fact he was a gardener - at least in every census from 1841 until 1891. They did have several children all born in Middlesex. (Thomas, Henry, Ann, George, Alfred, Arthur). If you are able to find anything that may link to him then great but I do understand the problem of 'popular' surnames.
regards
Charmian

Hi Charmian

Is this him in 1861

1861 England Census
about Thomas Baker
Name: Thomas Baker
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Bristol, Gloucestershire, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Marylebone
Sub registration district: St John
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 470
Household Members: Name Age
Alfred Baker 8
Ann Baker 41
Ann Baker 14
Arthur Baker 1
George Baker 10
Henry Baker 19
Thomas Baker 46
Thomas Baker 21

Do you want me to check baptisms for 1815 ish?

Marcelle

ps found this on IGI


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THOMAS BAKER Pedigree
Male Family


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Event(s):
Birth: About 1820 , , England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS BAKER Family
Mother: MRS. THOMAS BAKER


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Marriages:
Spouse: ANNE VERRINDER Family
Marriage: 05 MAY 1839 Brompton, London, England

However this is a submitted record.

I checked for a Thomas with a father Thomas and found these possibles:

Thomas Baker baptised 18.10.1815 @ St James Father Thomas Mother Elizabeth

Thomas Baker baptised 07/10/1821 @ St James Father Thomas Mother Ann

Thomas Baker baptised 12/11/1813 @ Almondsbury Father Thomas Mother Mary

Hi Marcelle

is there any possibility you could look on the Bristol baptisms for Samuel Neillie/Deane born 1834 Temple, mother was Mary Ann Neillie, any info would be great.

Thank you

Kim

Hi Kim

not much on the discs for this family

I found

Ann Neillie Father Thomas Mother Mary baptised 24/12/1821 born 18/06/1816 @ St Mary Redcliffe

Elizabeth Neillie Father Thomas Mother Mary Ann baptised 11/06/1815 @ Temple

Mary Ann Neillie Father Thomas Mother May Ann baptised 25/04/1813 @ Temple

William Neillie Father Thomas Mother Mary baptised 2402/1821 @ St Mary Redcliffe

Checked for Samuel but nothing and also checked Deane

Do you have him on the census at all?

I will have another look for different spellings

Marcelle

Hello Marcelle

Many thanks for all your efforts.

This is the Thomas in question in 1861. Just spotted my typo making him 10 years younger than he actually was - sorry.

The two baptisms you have found for 1813 and 1815 certainly look promising. Have you any suggestions about how I might continue from here?
regards
Charmian

The only thing I can suggest is that you get the marriage cert for Thomas & Ann Verrinder and check the occupation of Thomas's dad....Its a very long shot and going to cost the price of 2 certs. Thomas baptised 1815, his dad was a cordwainer and Thomas 1813 his dad was a farmer. It would mean hoping that they stayed in those jobs.

I really don't know Charmian and would hate for you to waste money on my advice. I know how you feel though. I have given up on my Annie Jones from Wales lol

Almondsbury is quite a way from St James

Maybe you could put a request on the board and see if others agree with getting the marriage cert.

Sorry, not much help

Marcelle

Wedding info

Marriages Jun 1839 (>99%)
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AGISSIZ George Abraham Lewis Kensington 3 170
BAKER Thomas Kensington 3 170
BECK Ann Kensington 3 170
BLOMER Maria Kensington 3 170
CALLOULL Elizabeth Martha Kensington 3 170
SEARES Robert Kensington 3 170
Verrinder Ann Kensington 3 170
Young Thomas Kensington 3 170

Thanks for the kind offer Marcelle.

Could you look for a Baptism of Thomas Arlett b 1818c
And possibly a Marriage between Thomas Arlett and an Elizabeth Crabb please.

Not sure which part sorry.

Marriage should have taken place 1835-37

Many thanks

Lorraine

Thanks for the advice and info - will give it a go and see where I get to.

By the way, I've given up on my Thomas Jones from Wales... for the time being.
Charmian

Hello lorraine

Nothing for Thomas Arlett but found these. They may be of some use to you

Marriages of an Elizabeth Crabb

Elizabeth Crabb & William Williams 27/10/1817 @ St Paul

Elizabeth Crabb & James Herman 09/09/1829 @ St Mary Le Port

Grooms:

James Arlett & Mary Ann Forse 28/03/1834 @ Bedminster St John

Thmas Arlett & Ann Howard 05/02/1819 @ St John

William Arlett & Elizbeth Walker 15/08/1827 @ Bedminster St John

Arlett Baptisms 1813-1837

James 25.12.1836 Father William Mother Elizabeth @ Bedminster St John

John 21/06/1835 Father & Mother as above @ Bedminster St John

Susan 27/05/1832 Father Richard mother Elisabeth 27/05/1832 @ St Philip & Jacob

Marcelle

Hi Marcelle

Thank you for the info

Yes I do have Samuel on the 1841 census as Neillie then by the 1851 Mary Ann has married George Deane (I think in Bristol) and Samuel adopted that surname for the rest of his life.

Kim

Kim

Do you have Mary ann's maiden name?

Thank you very Marcelle.

I'll save them for later on.

regards
Lorraine

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Hello Marcelle
Thank you for the kind offer. I would be grateful if you could look up my Gtx2 Grandmothers baptism...
Johanna Williams born 1811c Bristol Parents John Williams & Elizabeth
Many thanks
Georgie

Hello Marcelle
I would be very grateful if you could look up my Grandparents marriage, Albert Edward Cooper abt 1877 and Emily Gray abt 1886 at Holy Trinity Clifton
between 1891 to 1901. and Emilys Baptism, would this show who were her parents were, thanking you